tkdguy Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 I agree with the sentiment. But asking the anti-maskers to do all that reading may be too much for them. Not that they're necessarily incapable; they just tune out long before then. Pariah, Pattern Ghost and unclevlad 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 Texas Gov. Greg Abbott tests positive for COVID-19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, Cygnia said: Texas Gov. Greg Abbott tests positive for COVID-19 Do we have to move this discussion to the political forum before I start making commentary about justice? Dr.Device 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 I wouldn't rush to do that. Abbott is asymptomatic, because he's fully vaccinated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 https://news.yahoo.com/texas-school-district-requiring-masks-133637712.html I likes it.... Nifty little sidestep. Pariah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 Turns out that educated people are harder to manipulate or bully. Who would have thought? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 Figured this would probably happen. The governor issued a new order, reinstating indoor mask mandates save while eating/drinking, effective Friday. The order also requires vaccinations for those in medical close-contact situations, and for schools, requires vaccination or weekly testing. The governor's office's press release noted that some hospitals are already over capacity, and the numbers are expected to continue to climb. It came through on the neighborhood app...comments were completely turned off on it, leaving it as just the announcement, and a link to the story. Just as well. The anti-maskers would've been screaming, and the pro-maskers would've responded. We've had these before, and it got SERIOUSLY!!! ugly practically immediately, and stayed vicious until the thread was shut down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 Iran through 100,000 and Mexico through 250,000 dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 This surprises me not even a little bit. Florida couple arrested after traveling to Hawaii with fake Covid vaccination cards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 24 minutes ago, Pariah said: This surprises me not even a little bit. Florida couple arrested after traveling to Hawaii with fake Covid vaccination cards The real face palm moment is that they were caught because they listed their kids as vaccinated...when they're 4 and 5. Vaccine's not being given to under 12. Makes me feel really bad for the kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 Texas parent rips mask off teacher's face, school official warns: 'Do not fight mask wars in our schools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 That's simple assault. Good luck finding a judge in Texas who'd make that ruling, though. Matt the Bruins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 The teachers apparently are a bit reticent to press charges, in the interest of trying to maintain reasonable relationships with the parents. I can understand that. This is probably going to get worse before it gets better. Story on CNN today about parents pulling kids out of, IIRC, Cobb County (Georgia) schools because of inadequate mask requirements, and therefore in their view, unsafe environments. Some were clear-cut...asthma cases, one of the kids was a leukemia survivor and thus immunocompromised. And the school district in Texas where the board added masks as part of the dress code. I can...somewhat...understand the assertion that not wearing a mask is a matter of personal choice...but it is reckless, in my mind, to put *kids* at risk. And shows, at least to me, callous selfishness. But the pattern's cast in carbonite now. There's no indication whatsoever that it'll change willingly. That's why we're seeing more and more governmental and corporate vaccination requirements. Carrot won't work? Fine, break out the stick. Surprise, surprise....Abbott appealed straight to the Texas Supreme Court to rule on local school districts passing their own mask mandates. The Court refused to intervene. This isn't a win for the districts; it did not affirm their right to make the mandates. Abbott is being forced to go through the normal appeals process, through lower courts. MUCH slower process. It may also push more districts to pass their own mandates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 3 hours ago, Cancer said: That's simple assault. Good luck finding a judge in Texas who'd make that ruling, though. Under TX law it isn't misdemeanor assault. It's automatically a felony assault because it was done to a public employee while that person was working. If the DA wanted to be really nasty about it, he could try for felony assault with a deadly weapon since the object of the assault was to infect the teacher with a deadly disease. That's tactic has been used successfully in rape cases where the attacker has AIDS so an aggressive prosecutor could try for it here.Of course it being TX, I'd assume the DA will throw a ticker tape parade for the person who committed the assault rather than prosecuting but that's another matter.The teacher and the teacher's union could also sue the attacker in a civil case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 Hospitals in North Texas have "quietly developed" a plan to allow doctors to take vaccination status into account when deciding how to triage intensive-care beds if the coronavirus pandemic overwhelms ICUs. https://www.rawstory.com/texas-hospitals/ So basically the plan is that in North Texas if two patients need an ICU bed and only one bed is available (like is happening in Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, and perhaps elsewhere), the person who got vaccinated will get the bed. I have to say that sounds 100% fair to me: the more responsible person gets the bed and the irresponsible person doesn't. Dr.Device, aylwin13 and Matt the Bruins 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 No wonder the Vulcans are waiting until 2063. Lord Liaden, BarretWallace and Pariah 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 New Studies Hint That the Coronavirus May Be Evolving to Become More Airborne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cygnia Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 Are All Those Plexiglass Barriers in Restaurants Actually Keeping Anyone Safe From COVID-19? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Neilson Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 11 hours ago, unclevlad said: I can...somewhat...understand the assertion that not wearing a mask is a matter of personal choice...but it is reckless, in my mind, to put *kids* at risk. And shows, at least to me, callous selfishness. A "personal choice". Kind of like whether to wear a seatbelt, smoke tobacco, smoke marijuana, drink alcohol, drive 55, urinate in the street, yell "fire" in a crowded restaurant or wear a shirt and shoes to the restaurant? Clearly we would never DREAM of restricting those rights to personal choice, so how can we possibly mandate mask-wearing? Dr.Device, BarretWallace, Grailknight and 2 others 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 Presented without comment. GOP Leader Who Fought Against Vaccine Dies After Weekslong Battle With Coronavirus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 It saddens me profoundly to say it, but more deaths of prominent anti-vaxxers may be the only thing that can start to change their fellows' minds. Lee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 Third day in a row that US daily deaths have exceeded 1000. The 7-day average of new cases is the highest since the start of February; the 7-day average of new deaths, since mid-April. In 6 weeks, we've lost all the ground we gained in 5 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt the Bruins Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 23 hours ago, archer said: Hospitals in North Texas have "quietly developed" a plan to allow doctors to take vaccination status into account when deciding how to triage intensive-care beds if the coronavirus pandemic overwhelms ICUs. https://www.rawstory.com/texas-hospitals/ So basically the plan is that in North Texas if two patients need an ICU bed and only one bed is available (like is happening in Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, and perhaps elsewhere), the person who got vaccinated will get the bed. I have to say that sounds 100% fair to me: the more responsible person gets the bed and the irresponsible person doesn't. I wonder how that interacts with consideration that unvaccinated patients who lost a game of Covid roulette mostly won't be competing with vaccinated Covid-19 patients for ICU beds; they'll be competing with people who need treatment for heart attacks, strokes, traumatic brain injuries, cancer, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 44 minutes ago, Matt the Bruins said: I wonder how that interacts with consideration that unvaccinated patients who lost a game of Covid roulette mostly won't be competing with vaccinated Covid-19 patients for ICU beds; they'll be competing with people who need treatment for heart attacks, strokes, traumatic brain injuries, cancer, etc. Is that the case? At this point...and for, heck, over a year now...I was under the impression that the ICU problem was because of Covid patients. They've been dwarfing ICU cases from *all other* sources by a wide margin. And as I read the story? I think the intent is to say that non-vax Covids are the LOWEST priority for the ICU beds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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