unclevlad Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 20 hours ago, ScottishFox said: That's just not so. We had the mortality rate down by about 75% for a bit. From the middle of April to mid June we cut the number of hospitalizations in half. Sure, we've borked it recently with a lot of the 30 and under crowd getting sick by way of ignoring the rules, but we absolutely did flatten the curve for awhile. The area in Texas I'm in is seeing an increase, but here you're more likely to be murdered than die of Coronavirus. However, we are likely to pass our average flu-season numbers in the next few weeks - 3,200 deaths and climbing. The worst recent flu season in Texas (2017-2018) took 11,000 lives according to the Texas DHS. We're way below that - so far. You're still overly focused on deaths. How many serious hospitalizations have there been? How many medium- to long-term problems? How many indirect complications such as the potential encephalitis-like condition? How much has Texas LIED about their deaths, as well? And a short-term amelioration...come on. How much of this was the culture of Texas and a LARGE percentage of the people refusing to even get tested? How do you know what the real case counts were, back in April and May? Texas is now showing infection rates similar to Arizona, and we will see deaths rising. Lord Liaden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishFox Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 30 minutes ago, unclevlad said: You're still overly focused on deaths. We'll disagree here. This and hospitalizations are the best metrics as they avoid artificial inflation caused by massively more available testing for non-hospitalized public. I know one difference between some of the states is whether or not they include possible/probable cases or only include confirmed cases. The former probably raises the numbers above reality and the latter probably lowers it below reality. Assuming that Texas is lying about their numbers and that other states are not is a pretty big leap of faith. Also, if Texas is lying about the numbers they are doing a terrible job. Texas 90 day trend below: Your points about long term issues after being critically ill are valid. Points about Texas culture - Accurate. The number of people wearing masks - too low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 66 Positive for Covid-19 in Put-in-Bay's Mass Testing of Residents, Employees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted July 15, 2020 Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 This is what happens when you elevate selfishness to a national virtue while simultaneously kneecapping education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted July 15, 2020 Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 Well kids are never going back to school, so that will get worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted July 15, 2020 Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 10 hours ago, ScottishFox said: Also, if Texas is lying about the numbers they are doing a terrible job. The article said nothing about Texas lying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted July 15, 2020 Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 If I were going to escalate a dispute in a store, Home Depot would be the very last place I would do it. I'd be afraid that somebody would get tired of my crap and hit me in the back of the head with a shovel. Matt the Bruins and Ragitsu 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted July 15, 2020 Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 A shovel? You can do way better than that in a Home Depot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted July 15, 2020 Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 Imagine being done in by a post-digger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishFox Posted July 15, 2020 Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 7 hours ago, Old Man said: The article said nothing about Texas lying. No, but Unclevlad did and that's who (whom?) I was responding to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted July 15, 2020 Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 Virus data will now bypass CDC and go to White House Ragitsu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishFox Posted July 15, 2020 Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 And in the Why Would We Need Good Data category today: Nothing like inflating positive rates by 10x. It's not like life altering decisions are being made on this data. This kind of thing is the bane of people who work with data. So frustrating. Sociotard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted July 15, 2020 Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 Who the *%#! put the Three Stooges in charge of pandemic management?! Lawnmower Boy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted July 15, 2020 Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, Lord Liaden said: Who the *%#! put the Three Stooges in charge of pandemic management?! The electorate of Britain, the US, and Brazil. Old Man, Rails, Hugh Neilson and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted July 15, 2020 Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 5 hours ago, ScottishFox said: No, but Unclevlad did and that's who (whom?) I was responding to. In the vernacular, "[...] who I was responding to" is fine, but "[...] to whom I was responding" is the approved way to say it in Nitpickese. ScottishFox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 7 hours ago, L. Marcus said: In the vernacular, "[...] who I was responding to" is fine, but "[...] to whom I was responding" is the approved way to say it in Nitpickese. I thought they only spoke that in isolated parts of western China... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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unclevlad Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 Even though France was beaten mercilessly in the initial stages of the pandemic..... The US is a couple of weeks away from passing them for per capita death rates. Italy, Spain, UK...not for too long to extrapolate. But, still... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmower Boy Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 I dunno, boss. 71,670 cases today and deaths getting back on trend. . . This seems like as good a time as any for reminding you that you still haven't made a call on who gets your comics collection. If, you know, well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 We just drew up our wills a couple of weeks ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 I feel like America's death has already happened. It's just that the separate parts haven't necessarily registered it yet, so there's still spasms. It has little to do with the coronavirus, and far more to do with our utterly fractured response...to this and to seemingly *everything* around us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 10 hours ago, Lord Liaden said: Who the *%#! put the Three Stooges in charge of pandemic management?! Woowoowoowoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 11 hours ago, Lord Liaden said: Who the *%#! put the Three Stooges in charge of pandemic management?! U.S. voters did, in November 2016. We didn't necessarily realize that's what we were doing at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 Sorry everyone, but I'm out of this thread and I will be asking the moderators to lock it. I can no longer tolerate the repeated insults and abuse of the Three Stooges. TrickstaPriest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 Very well, let's shift from farce to irony: Study links good health-care in Canada to higher COVID-19 death rate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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