quozaxx Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 Ok. I've been looking over some of the original Enemies characters. Many have had a slight adjustment in Classic Enemies. And I've especially been looking at Panda and Raccoon. And I'm thinking 'how would I update them'? First, I'd put Panda's Mental defense outside of her multipower and give her more Ego Attack in her MP. (Like does body, reduced END, penetrating, etc) For Raccoon, I'd give him Shrinking (to Raccoon size) and may even give him a rabies bite (just for fun) But that made me wonder. Who would you upgrade from an older book, and how would you upgrade them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 Upgrade Frisbee to Chakram. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amorkca Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 Did you know there is a sixth edition version of Panda & Raccoon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 Does anybody remember an old villain group called the Geodesics? Four members: Ultraviolet, Dart, Diamond, and Orb. The way they were built, they were extremely weak, but I always thought they had an interesting group dynamic. Or, at least they did the way I played them. I wouldn’t mind seeing his upgraded versions for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. MID-Nite Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 I've upgraded a large number of villains to 6th ed..including all of the characters from Scourge from the Deep, Demons Rule, and Roadkill, along with a good chunk of characters from other books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Pariah said: Does anybody remember an old villain group called the Geodesics? Four members: Ultraviolet, Dart, Diamond, and Orb. The way they were built, they were extremely weak, but I always thought they had an interesting group dynamic. Or, at least they did the way I played them. I wouldn’t mind seeing his upgraded versions for them. Tiger gave them an upgrade and a fifth member with a resurrected Black Claw. Oh, and he did resurrect Orb from the grave. He "reset" Dart, Diamond, and Ultraviolet (and left an option for Diamond to keep his upgrade from Dystopia). Someone will probably put a link to it in the e-shop here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quozaxx Posted August 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 10 hours ago, Amorkca said: Did you know there is a sixth edition version of Panda & Raccoon? I did not know that. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assault Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 11 hours ago, Greywind said: Upgrade Frisbee to Chakram. While I would rework her a whole bunch, she is the basis for my boomerang throwing characters - the ones that would, with another hundred points, be Batman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 I did have this one "upgrade" idea for the 4th Edition universe. The Infinite Man from Alien Enemies wanted to test the human aphorism "Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely" so he secretly bestowed upon Crusader powers and abilities far beyond those of ordinary men--or even other superheroes. Crusader gradually discovered these powers, and was able to use them effectively in his war against evil, even taking on Firewing single-handed and beating him. When The Infinite Man revealed that he was the reason for his powers, Crusader had him take them back--while he had proven that he could use them wisely, he didn't trust himself to misuse his abilities in the future. This could be a scenario for a campaign--a normally non-powered PC suddenly acquires super powers, and he and the other PCs have to figure out how and why. It could even be a rationale for a PCs origin. Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoloOfEarth Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 I always liked Ladybug. I know her Enemies writeup was updated for 4E in Classic Enemies, but I don't believe she made it into 5E or 6E. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 I'd like to see Aerion updated. DC's Doctor Polaris and Marvel's Magneto are essentially the same idea. But Doctor Polaris gets a "eh, whatever" while Magneto gets "Oh crap! It's Magneto!" Magneto has style and a purpose which sets him apart from the villain-of-the-week. He gathers a Brotherhood of superpowered minions around him. At the times superpowered minions haven't gather around him, Magneto just created some new superpowered minions. Magneto has felt driven to create a headquarters in a freaking asteroid. I'd like to see Aerion be given the Magneto treatment. Give Aerion a driving reason to exist. Have him gather people to him so he can accomplish his purposes and have those people believe in him. Give him a base of operations, obviously not an asteroid because Aerion has wind powers instead of magnetism, but give him something dramatic and appropriate. I don't want the PC's to go "Oh crap, it's Aerion!" because the players have seen an updated character sheet with a crap-ton of new points and powers. Instead, I want the PC's to say, "Oh crap, it's Aerion" because something momentous is about to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchpad Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 I wish I could find my old campaign books. I had a bunch of updated characters from 3rd and 4th ed in them, along with some of the story hooks and history in the campaign. IIRC, Psi from Mind Games was pumped up a bit, and had a few members added in. Mongoose had become a neat street-leveled hero with elements of Casey Jones blended in. And Doctor Destroyer had been killed and resurrected several times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmachu Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 Taurus and the zodiacs. Love that group. drunkonduty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 On 8/10/2019 at 7:50 AM, assault said: While I would rework her a whole bunch, she is the basis for my boomerang throwing characters - the ones that would, with another hundred points, be Batman. Batman doesn't need a boomerang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assault Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Greywind said: Batman doesn't need a boomerang. It's true that grappling hook guns and shuriken are probably more effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 Actually I was thinking of a Justice League/Suicide Squad crossover when Cpt. Boomerang challenged Batman to see whose weapon was better. They each threw and Boomer kept watch on the toys while Batman closed the distance. When Boomer was celebrating because his razorang broke the batarang, Batman decked him telling him, "I am my weapon." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 15 hours ago, Sketchpad said: I wish I could find my old campaign books. I had a bunch of updated characters from 3rd and 4th ed in them, along with some of the story hooks and history in the campaign. IIRC, Psi from Mind Games was pumped up a bit, and had a few members added in. Mongoose had become a neat street-leveled hero with elements of Casey Jones blended in. And Doctor Destroyer had been killed and resurrected several times. I recently gave Mongoose more experience (dislike saying 'upgraded') since he's been in the campaign since near the beginning. Now he's immune to poison of any type, added Breakfall, added the Mongoose martial arts from the Ultimate Martial Artist, some Combat Luck and so on. He's joined a supervillain team but is still the flamboyant martial artist as before. When I recently pulled him out and mentioned his high DCV while still attacking, one player said, "That's high", to which another player replied, "Yep, that's Mongoose!" So, I think the more experienced Mongoose is a success. Sketchpad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 I've also rewritten Vibron, Piledriver, Oculon and Fire&Ice from Enemies I/II. Didn't care for any of the write-ups since. They're more capable but essentially still the same; changing Vibron in CKC to an alien I thought was too bizarre and pointless. All are human in my write-ups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 Mechanon, the Engineer and any tech orientated villain could do with an upgrade. Thank you. I'm here all week. Try the fish. BoloOfEarth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchpad Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 On 8/12/2019 at 7:50 AM, Tech said: I recently gave Mongoose more experience (dislike saying 'upgraded') since he's been in the campaign since near the beginning. Now he's immune to poison of any type, added Breakfall, added the Mongoose martial arts from the Ultimate Martial Artist, some Combat Luck and so on. He's joined a supervillain team but is still the flamboyant martial artist as before. When I recently pulled him out and mentioned his high DCV while still attacking, one player said, "That's high", to which another player replied, "Yep, that's Mongoose!" So, I think the more experienced Mongoose is a success. IIRC, I ended up pumping up his Dex, Spd, OCV/DCV, and gave him some special "skills" to both give and take a beating. In a few scenarios, the team had to defend a few former Viper agents from him. Turned out to be a pretty awesome fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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