Ximenez Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 Looking for opinions: a player wants the ability to create an illusory duplicate of himself. How much of a disadvantage to Images is "Only to create a duplicate of yourself?" The two duplicates can do different things--the image could appear to attack while the real one runs off, or vice-versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 I think this falls under "Set Effect" making it -1. Lucius Alexander Images, only to show a palindromedary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Democracy Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 Have you considered making this illusory duplicate an actual duplicate? It should not take a LOT of points to create a phantom with effectively no powers beyond images (only to look like using powers of duplicate). I would think you need desolidification (invisible effects) and you could probably buy down most of the stats to minimum (not INT, EGO PRE I think). You might want multiple duplicates in the event one gets injured and killed (and so a Regen - come back from dead would be valuable here). Thus you would have an illusory duplicate that actually exists and can act independently of the character, looking like it is doing things the character can do. If a duplicate is physically disrupted it can take a while for the main character to get it back together again.... Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 Unless I missed something Doc D, if it's bought as a duplicate and it dies, that's it for the duplicate - it doesn't come back even though you spent points for it originally. I'd go with Images which is exactly what the power description is looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Democracy Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 I am extremely opposed to taking points away from a character except on a temporary basis. I would point out to the player the death potential but that, for a few points, this could be mitigated. I fail to see why, once you allow a resurrection power, that it could not be used on a duplicate. Doc "fighting for equal rights for duplicates" Democracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmjalund Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 If you want your duplicates to come back after they die, give them resurrection regeneration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Filewood Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 I agree with Lucius. -1 for 'Set Effect'. I would still allow the character to make 'minor changes' along the lines described in the example as a zero phase action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 6 hours ago, dmjalund said: If you want your duplicates to come back after they die, give them resurrection regeneration Agreed. Ximenez asked how do create it, I stated it RAW Doc D. I think Images is the way to go. I'm not saying I agree with the rules for Duplication either (among others). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsatow Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 Or you can use summon, though it might get costly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosshairCollie Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 Another option might be to buy some DCV levels that only apply to sight-based targeting (assuming that this images are sight-only, of course). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilFleischmann Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 I remember facing a villain whose standard MO was to 1) Make himself Invisible, 2) Project an Image of himself, 3) Use all his Attack powers bought with Indirect - they come from the Image. So all attacks against him have no effect at all. You have to figure out how he's doing it, and be able to see and target the invisible guy to defeat him. Duke Bushido, TranquiloUno and Amorkca 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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