Lord Liaden Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 It's laughable that the paradox of arguing to ban a group from speaking on the grounds of free speech never occurs to these people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DShomshak Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 In the tribalistic contest for power, there is no such thing as irony, paradox, or even basic logical coherence. Dean Shomshak Old Man, Lord Liaden and rravenwood 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoloOfEarth Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 18 hours ago, Ragitsu said: A business card for a group calling themselves "MAGAM" appeared in the mailbox. Make America Great Again Maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 Make America Great and Malevolent BoloOfEarth and Old Man 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 26 minutes ago, BoloOfEarth said: Make America Great Again Maybe? Sorry: the description on the card has already been forgotten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoloOfEarth Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 19 hours ago, Ragitsu said: A business card for a group calling themselves "MAGAM" appeared in the mailbox. 1 hour ago, BoloOfEarth said: Make America Great Again Maybe? 40 minutes ago, Ragitsu said: Sorry: the description on the card has already been forgotten. So definitely not Make America Great And Memorable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 Were you able to fumigate your mailbox afterwards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkdguy Posted September 5, 2023 Report Share Posted September 5, 2023 No idea about what actually happened, but hey, it's funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted September 5, 2023 Report Share Posted September 5, 2023 Did Trump fundraise millions of dollars... using a mugshot he doesn't own? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted September 5, 2023 Report Share Posted September 5, 2023 (edited) Does Trump understand the legalities? Maybe, maybe not. Would that matter to him? When has it ever? If the sheriff's department, the county or the state want to get that money from Trump, they'd better reserve an apartment near the courthouse. They'll be there a loooong time. Edited September 5, 2023 by Lord Liaden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted September 5, 2023 Report Share Posted September 5, 2023 US pro-birth conference’s links to far-right eugenicists Quote Dolan was at one time a social media influencer connected to the far-right Mormon “Deznat” or “Deseret nationalist” subculture and has himself linked the conference’s theme with eugenics in interviews. On 13 June, Dolan was a guest on the Jolly Heretic podcast, hosted by Edward Dutton, an Englishman who left an academic position in Finland after his university found that a work he co-authored with the self-described “scientific racist” Richard Lynn plagiarized a student’s dissertation. Dutton once served as editor of the eugenicist journal Mankind Quarterly and is listed as a Natal speaker. In his conversation with Dutton, Dolan said: “I think that the pro-natalist and the eugenic positions are very much not in opposition, they’re very much aligned.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asperion Posted September 5, 2023 Report Share Posted September 5, 2023 7 hours ago, Old Man said: Did Trump fundraise millions of dollars... using a mugshot he doesn't own? Didn't you know he owns everything? 😁😁😁😁😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted September 5, 2023 Report Share Posted September 5, 2023 7 hours ago, Asperion said: Didn't you know he owns everything? 😁😁😁😁😁 He doesn't own his own actions.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DShomshak Posted September 6, 2023 Report Share Posted September 6, 2023 On 9/2/2023 at 6:23 AM, Cygnia said: It seems to me the fundies cleave more to Paul than Jesus... 😕 This relates to a book I just finished and which I will recommend: The Shipwrecked Mind: On Political Reaction, by Mark Lilla. He argues that reaction is just as important a political force as revolution, though much less studied. They are in a sense mirrors of each other: The revolutionary hates the world as it is because it isn't the Golden Age to come; the reactionary hates the world as it is because it isn't the Golden Age that was lost. But while the revolutionary is driven by hope, the reactionary is driven by despair. Despite the subtitle, not much of Lilla's book is about politics directly. He's a Humanities professor, not PoliSci, so he looks at philosophers, novelists, and other scribblers, not polirticians and activists; the people who provide the intellectual underpinnings and express cultural moods. One chapter is, "From Mao to Saint Paul." Apparently the "apostle of the heretics" (early Church father Tertullian) has become rather popular with disappointed Marxists who sigh for the lost Golden Age of revolution. I won't even try to summarize the argument, but the Epistle to the Romans provides much to attract both Christian fanatics and secular revolutionaries: Quote Consider these extraordinarily pregnant passages from the Epistle: "We hold that a person is justified by faith apart from works prescribed by the law" (3:28). Does this mean that pure interior faith trumps all law, whether Jewish, Roman, Greek -- or modern? Or that works are without ultimate importance? "For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; the same Lord is lord of all" (10:12). Does that mean the absolute universality of the new religion and moral precepts, abolishing all cultural particularity? "And those he predestined he also called; and those whom he called he also justified; and those he justified he also glorified. What then are we to say about these things? If God is for us, who is against us?" (8:30-31). Does this mean, following the previous verses, that those called by God are justified in tearing down the law and bringing the world universal truth even against resistance? These heretical interpretations may be philologically unsound, but what does philology matter when, as Paul himself put it, "creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the children of God" (*:19)? One of St Paul's biggest recent fans is an unapologetic French Maoist who argues that the megadeath massacres of Stalin, Mao and other revolutionaries, Marxist and otherwise, are okay because revolutionary enthusiasm places a society "beyond good and evil," and "each revolution justifies the ones that came before" in a chain going all the way back to Moses. Though Judaism, he thinks, has become reactionary and so something must be done about the Jews. Other topics include the perennial "Decline of the West" genre, Jihadists, French novelists, Jewish philosophers, Neocon fustian, and TradCaths sighing for the supposed "harmony and coherence" of the Medieval Catholic world. All in all, an interesting tour of people whose heads are in places I find very strange. Good inspiration for supervillains, too. Dean Shomshak Ranxerox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted September 7, 2023 Report Share Posted September 7, 2023 Mexico Decriminalizes Abortion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted September 7, 2023 Report Share Posted September 7, 2023 I'm seeing both the tragedy and the irony in women from Texas one day crossing the Rio Grande to obtain an abortion in Mexico. 😞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted September 8, 2023 Report Share Posted September 8, 2023 This graphic was included in a piece about abortion from NYT this morning. Also, this chart: The graph showing the growth in the states bordering the ban states pretty clearly that those who need to, and can afford to, travel, they will. To Mexico, tho? I'll stipulate to a reputable facility...that said, that wouldn't always be true by any means, but it's also not 100% true in the US...but would US insurance cover the procedure *in Mexico*? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. MID-Nite Posted September 8, 2023 Report Share Posted September 8, 2023 The 2024 election is going to be a complete crapfest. Nuff said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted September 8, 2023 Report Share Posted September 8, 2023 10 minutes ago, Dr. MID-Nite said: The 2024 election is going to be a complete crapfest. Nuff said. Unfortunately, I rather suspect we'll make the same comment about every election cycle moving forward, for an indeterminate (but probably long) period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted September 8, 2023 Report Share Posted September 8, 2023 (edited) 48 minutes ago, unclevlad said: The graph showing the growth in the states bordering the ban states pretty clearly that those who need to, and can afford to, travel, they will. To Mexico, tho? I'll stipulate to a reputable facility...that said, that wouldn't always be true by any means, but it's also not 100% true in the US...but would US insurance cover the procedure *in Mexico*? The people with money to travel, and not needing health insurance, will be able to bypass any abortion ban. Even states which have threatened to prosecute those who travel elsewhere for abortions, will not prosecute the rich... because they're rich. Once again, it's the poor, the ones most negatively impacted by unwanted pregnancy, who'll suffer. Edited September 8, 2023 by Lord Liaden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted September 8, 2023 Report Share Posted September 8, 2023 The US Open became the latest victim of idiots claiming to be "environmental activists" being disruptive. There were 4; 3 were led out easily enough apparently...but the 4th abject <BLEEP> *glued their bare feet to the cement floor*. Yeah, that took some work to take this one out safely. Surprise, moron...the city is likely to bill you for the cost of the emergency services call. On top of the criminal charges, which probably are going to be notably stiffer than for the 3 that were removed without incident. The match was delayed for 49 minutes. I hope the clown can be charged with a felony. Actions like this are, IMO, incur far more negative reactions towards climate change. It just complements the disinformation campaigns that, no, there's nothing to worry about, by giving them a ready target. See? These are the types that support climate change! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted September 8, 2023 Report Share Posted September 8, 2023 21 hours ago, unclevlad said: Unfortunately, I rather suspect we'll make the same comment about every election cycle moving forward, for an indeterminate (but probably long) period. Optimistic of you to think that there will continue to be elections. I'm not even joking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted September 8, 2023 Report Share Posted September 8, 2023 19 minutes ago, Old Man said: Optimistic of you to think that there will continue to be elections. I'm not even joking. Putin has been elected president 4 times now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted September 8, 2023 Report Share Posted September 8, 2023 42 minutes ago, unclevlad said: Putin has been elected president 4 times now. "Elected" Lord Liaden and Hermit 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted September 8, 2023 Report Share Posted September 8, 2023 No argument. But you didn't limit it. There have been elections and Putin has won them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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