Pariah Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 On 5/12/2020 at 4:33 PM, Badger said: Yeah, I'm not much on funerals. I figure funerals are more for the living, and I am not one of those that gets a particular comfort out of funerals. I guess, I think of it more as a family duty, that they were there for me, so I can be there for them one more time. Somwething like that. Well, you know what they say: If you don't go to other people's funerals, they won't go to yours. Lawnmower Boy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmower Boy Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 22 hours ago, Pariah said: Well, you know what they say: If you don't go to other people's funerals, they won't go to yours. Makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 McConnell Admits He Was Wrong To Say Obama Didn't Leave A Pandemic Response Plan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 3 hours ago, wcw43921 said: McConnell Admits He Was Wrong To Say Obama Didn't Leave A Pandemic Response Plan "The Obama-Biden plan that has been referenced was insufficient, wasn't going to work," said White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany. "Beyond that, we did a whole exercise on pandemic preparedness," she added. "In August of last year, we had an entire after-action report put together. In other words, the Obama-Biden paper pocket was superseded by President Trump-style pandemic preparedness." As in, "One day, like a miracle, it'll be gone." I'd forgotten there even is a current White House press secretary. Perhaps she can only stomach uttering such drivel a few times a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 They go through press secretaries like Spinal Tap goes through drummers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 https://9to5mac.com/2020/05/14/access-your-browsing-history/ Warrants? Rights? Privacy? Scoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, Hermit said: https://9to5mac.com/2020/05/14/access-your-browsing-history/ Warrants? Rights? Privacy? Scoff It's okay, the SCOTUS would never... oh, wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 Are you [REDACTED] kidding me?! Michigan closes down Capitol in face of death threats from armed protesters against Governor Whitmer Seriously, what the actual [REDACTED]?! Since when is it okay to make death threats against government leaders you don't like? That's not okay. Not ever. At this point, I wouldn't blame Gov. Whitmer if she called in the National Guard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 This is the action of a small fringe of the Michigan populace -- polls show the majority support Whitmer's lockdown measures. But the current political climate is tolerating this kind of activity, and Donald Trump is actually fueling it with his "Liberate Michigan" tweets. Four years ago every level and branch of government would have condemned such expressed sentiments in the harshest terms, and the people running the websites encouraging such violence would have had their asses dragged into court for inciting hatred and armed insurrection. Matt the Bruins, TrickstaPriest and BNakagawa 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaplayboy Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 21 minutes ago, Lord Liaden said: This is the action of a small fringe of the Michigan populace -- polls show the majority support Whitmer's lockdown measures. But the current political climate is tolerating this kind of activity, and Donald Trump is actually fueling it with his "Liberate Michigan" tweets. Four years ago every level and branch of government would have condemned such expressed sentiments in the harshest terms, and the people running the websites encouraging such violence would have had their asses dragged into court for inciting hatred and armed insurrection. A crackdown on the various flavors of armed nutjobs out there--white supremacists, sovereign citizens, various militias--is long overdue. Put a federal/state/local task force on it and shut them all down. Run them to ground. It's gone beyond tiresome and ventured into the real of the frightening and threatening. Matt the Bruins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 Burr had to take one for the team and step down from his committee appointment according to the paper. I would love for his ill gotten gains to be seized like a cookie being grabbed by the cookie monster CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 15 hours ago, Lord Liaden said: I'd forgotten there even is a current White House press secretary. Perhaps she can only stomach uttering such drivel a few times a year. She's entirely too good at what she does to be safely ignored, IMO. She's the best propagandist press secretary the administration has had. Watch this carefully: TrickstaPriest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DShomshak Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 12 hours ago, megaplayboy said: A crackdown on the various flavors of armed nutjobs out there--white supremacists, sovereign citizens, various militias--is long overdue. Put a federal/state/local task force on it and shut them all down. Run them to ground. It's gone beyond tiresome and ventured into the real of the frightening and threatening. Long overdue but unlikely to happen, even discounting that Trump finds them useful. Back in the Obama administration -- I think it was during the Bundy Ranch standoff -- I heard that the FBI has a policy of never going after these far-right extremists for fear of provoking a worse, more violent backlash. They call it "Weaver fever": Many believe the Ruby Ridge standoff against Randy Weaver, followed by the Branch Davidian standoff, led to the Oklahoma City bombing. Now, I think coddling the fringe in this way only encourages them: It looks weak: Their anger feeds on itself, while perceived weakness increases contempt and confidence that they can get away with violent acts. So we might as well have it out and deal with any resulting insurrection, because -- as the Anti-Defamation League essay A Dark and Constant Rage points out -- this political poison has been around for decades. It isn't going away on its own. Dean Shomshak Dr. MID-Nite, TrickstaPriest and Lord Liaden 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 If the next presidential election goes against Trump, whatever the margin of victory, it's almost inevitable that these groups will respond with violence. If Trump wins, they'll start acting like every other pro-government militia in the world. TrickstaPriest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaplayboy Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 5 hours ago, DShomshak said: Long overdue but unlikely to happen, even discounting that Trump finds them useful. Back in the Obama administration -- I think it was during the Bundy Ranch standoff -- I heard that the FBI has a policy of never going after these far-right extremists for fear of provoking a worse, more violent backlash. They call it "Weaver fever": Many believe the Ruby Ridge standoff against Randy Weaver, followed by the Branch Davidian standoff, led to the Oklahoma City bombing. Now, I think coddling the fringe in this way only encourages them: It looks weak: Their anger feeds on itself, while perceived weakness increases contempt and confidence that they can get away with violent acts. So we might as well have it out and deal with any resulting insurrection, because -- as the Anti-Defamation League essay A Dark and Constant Rage points out -- this political poison has been around for decades. It isn't going away on its own. Dean Shomshak Yeah, I think that was a huge mistake. If they fight back hard, come back at them 3x harder. If posting to Daily Stormer and "protesting" while carrying an AR gets you put on an FBI watchlist, maybe fewer people will be inclined to do that sort of thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickstaPriest Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 7 hours ago, megaplayboy said: Yeah, I think that was a huge mistake. If they fight back hard, come back at them 3x harder. If posting to Daily Stormer and "protesting" while carrying an AR gets you put on an FBI watchlist, maybe fewer people will be inclined to do that sort of thing. As long as they can be confirmed to acting maliciously (and in this case I certainly think they can be). I understand some people's trepidation in having the federal government bust organizations like that... but frankly they have been giving a number of local terrorist organizations a 'free pass'. It is interesting to hear what the (possible) rationale is for doing so, at least. As you say... it hasn't worked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 44 minutes ago, TrickstaPriest said: I understand some people's trepidation in having the federal government bust organizations like that... but frankly they have been giving a number of local terrorist organizations a 'free pass'. It is interesting to hear what the (possible) rationale is for doing so, at least. Melanin. Grailknight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BNakagawa Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 On 5/15/2020 at 9:05 PM, Lord Liaden said: This is the action of a small fringe of the Michigan populace -- polls show the majority support Whitmer's lockdown measures. But the current political climate is tolerating this kind of activity, and Donald Trump is actually fueling it with his "Liberate Michigan" tweets. Four years ago every level and branch of government would have condemned such expressed sentiments in the harshest terms, and the people running the websites encouraging such violence would have had their asses dragged into court for inciting hatred and armed insurrection. four years ago was an entire mirror mirror type inversion ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 Man Who Threatened Governor Whitmer Faces Terrorism Charges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 Good. Lock the b@st@rd up and toss the key. Ternaugh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickstaPriest Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 11 hours ago, Old Man said: Melanin. The biggest factor. Heh. But I more meant the rationale they admit to... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 TrickstaPriest, Tom Cowan and BoloOfEarth 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 Billionaires are inherently Lawful Evil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 Don't be ridiculous. Trump is obviously Chaotic Evil. Tom Cowan, Pariah, Hermit and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 My sentiments exactly. Besides, accumulated wealth isn't in and of itself Evil. To my mind, it's a sort of ability. And as a wiser man than myself---Albus Dumbledore--once said, “It is our choices, Harry, that show what we truly are far more than our abilities.” Trump, to my mind and the minds of others, has chosen poorly. Thing is, it's always others who suffer, and will continue to suffer for his choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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