megaplayboy Posted July 27, 2016 Report Share Posted July 27, 2016 It's an odd use here, but it means " a public speech or publication that praises somebody." Used in the context above, it almost means "public relations smear campaign." D'oh! I should have said "polemic" instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted July 27, 2016 Report Share Posted July 27, 2016 Two weeks straight of massive eye-rolling Badger: MY EYES! THEY BURNS US! It could be worse. You could have an Ewok standing for President. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted July 27, 2016 Report Share Posted July 27, 2016 So, back to the wikileaks release for a minute-- These files have been the topic of renewed discussion in some cyber forums, for obvious reasons. In a nutshell there is virtually no question that the Russian government is behind the hack. The emails were opened and edited on a computer set to use Cyrillic by default. The hacker claimed to the press that he was Romanian but spoke and wrote very poor Romanian compared to his Russian. Email communications with the "hacker" are clearly being written by several different people. There is almost no reason for a private hacker or group to spend time on DNC communications--there's no profit model there. And lastly it fits a now well-established pattern of the Putin regime to interfere in elections with well-timed leaks and hacks--it's just that up until now he's been picking on Eastern European countries. On top of this Putin and Trump are thoroughly on record as supporting, if not admiring, each other. It's also been pointed out that many of the 500+ companies that Trump is involved in are Russian or have Russian ties. It's even been said that Russian money is keeping Trump's business afloat. This last may be hyperbolic but there's definitely enough involvement to constitute a serious conflict of interest. The worry is that the well-established Russian pattern doesn't involve one leak. It involves a campaign of leaks and disinformation timed to cause maximum disruption. As a result we can expect more such wikileaks releases, fabricated or not. And people in the industry are now really, really worried about the security of electronic voting machines. Sleep well! Netzilla, Sociotard, aylwin13 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolgroth Posted July 27, 2016 Report Share Posted July 27, 2016 D'oh! I should have said "polemic" instead. It's all good. English is the language that dares you to learn it. Thank Robin Williams for that quote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted July 27, 2016 Report Share Posted July 27, 2016 "We shall eat the flesh of those who despoil American forests" Presidential Nominee JubJub, the first Ewok to run for president, has made a controversial and strong statement on environmental issues. wcw43921 and aylwin13 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iuz the Evil Posted July 27, 2016 Report Share Posted July 27, 2016 http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/27/politics/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-hack-hillary-clinton/index.html I don't think that's ever happened before, a presidential candidate calling on a foreign power publicly to conduct espionage on their opponent. Whoa. DasBroot, Lucius, Netzilla and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted July 27, 2016 Report Share Posted July 27, 2016 http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/27/politics/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-hack-hillary-clinton/index.html I don't think that's ever happened before, a presidential candidate calling on a foreign power publicly to conduct espionage on their opponent. Whoa. Ok... between this and Old Man's earlier post, we are now officially in the 'scaring me ####less all over again that he might win' territory aylwin13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaplayboy Posted July 27, 2016 Report Share Posted July 27, 2016 http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/27/politics/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-hack-hillary-clinton/index.html I don't think that's ever happened before, a presidential candidate calling on a foreign power publicly to conduct espionage on their opponent. Whoa. Trump just flushed the Republicans strongest criticism of Clinton, that she compromised our national security, straight down the toilet. Shadow Hawk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted July 27, 2016 Report Share Posted July 27, 2016 So, back to the wikileaks release for a minute-- These files have been the topic of renewed discussion in some cyber forums, for obvious reasons. In a nutshell there is virtually no question that the Russian government is behind the hack. The emails were opened and edited on a computer set to use Cyrillic by default. The hacker claimed to the press that he was Romanian but spoke and wrote very poor Romanian compared to his Russian. Email communications with the "hacker" are clearly being written by several different people. There is almost no reason for a private hacker or group to spend time on DNC communications--there's no profit model there. And lastly it fits a now well-established pattern of the Putin regime to interfere in elections with well-timed leaks and hacks--it's just that up until now he's been picking on Eastern European countries. On top of this Putin and Trump are thoroughly on record as supporting, if not admiring, each other. It's also been pointed out that many of the 500+ companies that Trump is involved in are Russian or have Russian ties. It's even been said that Russian money is keeping Trump's business afloat. This last may be hyperbolic but there's definitely enough involvement to constitute a serious conflict of interest. The worry is that the well-established Russian pattern doesn't involve one leak. It involves a campaign of leaks and disinformation timed to cause maximum disruption. As a result we can expect more such wikileaks releases, fabricated or not. And people in the industry are now really, really worried about the security of electronic voting machines. Sleep well! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv8Iv8nkjqU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted July 27, 2016 Report Share Posted July 27, 2016 Ok... between this and Old Man's earlier post, we are now officially in the 'scaring me ####less all over again that he might win' territory National polls right now show a dead heat. Just sayin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaplayboy Posted July 27, 2016 Report Share Posted July 27, 2016 It does somewhat put a gun to the head of people who insist that they are equally bad, that one of them ups the ante on awfulness every week. Shadow Hawk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
薔薇語 Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 Lets vote for someone who isn't connected to any conspiracy - thus not Trump or Sec. Clinton. Lets vote Gov Gary Johnson! Soar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 Gabby Giffords. That. Is. Amazing. :thumbup: Ranxerox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaplayboy Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 Obama's going to go down in history as a top 10 all-time president. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iuz the Evil Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 This convention is packed with impressive speakers. Obama with another one, boom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 Heard the last half on the radio. Goose bumps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaplayboy Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 That's why it's called "the power of speech". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 "We shall eat the flesh of those who despoil American forests" Presidential Nominee JubJub, the first Ewok to run for president, has made a controversial and strong statement on environmental issues. *Badger makes plans to go all "John Wilkes Booth" if this menace succeeds.* Alternately, Badger ponders entering politics vowing to build a wall around Ewok village if elected. BoloOfEarth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 Obama's going to go down in history as a top 10 all-time president. I'll admit Obama has been better than I expected but.......no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 Top ten is hard to crack when you already have Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Wilson, two Roosevelts, Truman, and Eisenhower in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
薔薇語 Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 So, there was a big walkout from the DNConvention by Senator Sander's supporters. Soar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 Top ten is hard to crack when you already have Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Wilson, two Roosevelts, Truman, and Eisenhower in there. At the very least (well I might move Wilson down to the 11-15 mark) I'd actually put Obama somewhere in the 20s, which is more than most people on my side would give him. Where in the 20s depends on how I am feeling that day. Note: And quite a few of the 19th century guys are hard for me to rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaplayboy Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 Top ten is hard to crack when you already have Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Wilson, two Roosevelts, Truman, and Eisenhower in there. I don't have Ike or Woodrow in my top 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
薔薇語 Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 I wouldn't want to put President Wilson in my top 10. Extreme anti-Semitic demagogue who jailed reporters and political dissidents. Even by the standards of his time he was not a nice person. President Ike had some flaws but I could see him in my top ten. Same for my home state President, President Truman. Washington and Jefferson would be must haves. As I recall Monroe was a pretty admirable chap. While I disagree with him on a lot of issues, I think President Clinton generally did a good job. So, that gives me 6 to start with. Soar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnStrawberry Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 So, there was a big walkout from the DNConvention by Senator Sander's supporters. Soar. A woman after my own heart - and with the same doubts I have that the lipservice and the convention will translate into meaningful reform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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