zslane Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 DC can certainly make animated content strictly for kids and serious content strictly for adults. That narrow view doesn't also have to restrict which medium both are presented on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylwin13 Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 Animated Batman seems to do well regardless of the medium (feature film or television). Why can't DC realize the same would be true for live-action Batman? (Answer: because DC is governed by witless nerfherders.) That's kind of insulting to the nerf herders, isn't it? Andrew_A 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 That's kind of insulting to the nerf herders, isn't it? Yeah, I guess it is. Sorry, nerf herders! aylwin13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 http://comicbook.com/2017/02/14/ben-affleck-quitting-batman/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 Regardless of whether or not this latest rumor is true, the fact remains that WB/DC can't seem to keep their (DCEU) sh*t together for very long. Virtually every film has been struck with controversy and delays of one kind or another. They only get away with it because audiences seem to have an incurable hard-on for Batman, and will gleefully pay to see him on the big screen no matter what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmower Boy Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 It turns out that someone surreptitiously recorded the latest WB DCEU movie strategy meeting: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 The Lego Batman move was fantastic. Also, I consider the Lego Batman movie a Lego movie, not a DC movie. Lego knows what they're doing and this movie was clearly made by brilliant people who know what they're doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdamnhero Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 Justice League to fix Batmobile’s sad lack of every gun ever. Yep, that should make everything ok. pinecone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 I have to admit, evidence continues to mount that Zack Snyder just doesn't get it. We may have to wait for Batman to guest on a CW show before we see someone recognizable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slikmar Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 It's almost like he is designing the car to SPITE the criticisms. I will do it my, dammit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdamnhero Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 Yeah, it's pretty clear Snyder's approach is that if X isn't working, the solution is to add more X but dialed up to 11. I've said it before, I'll say it again: Marvel's movie success starts with producers who themselves know, understand, and respect the source material. Until Warner Bros. puts people with the same relationship to DC's characters firmly at the head of their comic-book film properties, those films will continue to struggle to find their footing. I can't disagree with this statement, but I think the problems go much deeper than that. Loyalty to the source material aside, the DC/WB movies just aren't very good. They're overstuffed and confusing, full of uninteresting characters that lack motivation, relatability, or narrative agency who don't change in any meaningful way and are overshadowed by empty spectacle and Big Emotional Moments that haven't been earned. You could theoretically make a decent movie where Superman is an entitled douche; us fanboys would've cried that it's not the real Superman, but the broader moviegoing audience wouldn't necessarily care. It's not just that they aren't making good Superman movies - they're just not making good movies period. pinecone, BarretWallace, Ternaugh and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drunkonduty Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 What bigdamnhero said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 Loyalty to the source material aside, the DC/WB movies just aren't very good. I can't disagree with this. Take away the costumes and Iron Man is still a good movie, so is Captain America, Avengers, etc. The spectacle makes it fun but they are solid stories with solid acting on their own. BarretWallace 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasBroot Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 I have to admit, evidence continues to mount that Zack Snyder just doesn't get it. We may have to wait for Batman to guest on a CW show before we see someone recognizable. His 'cameo' on Powerless was more recognisable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 We may have to wait for Batman to guest on a CW show before we see someone recognizable. I think you'll be waiting a very long time. AFAIK, they haven't acknowledged that the Batman exists anywhere in the CW multiverse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdamnhero Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 Supergirl made a throwaway comment earlier this year that her cousin used to work with a costumed vigilante, which was clearly meant as a Bat Reference. But the use of past tense means I agree we're unlikely to see him show up on camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 Such a veiled reference doesn't really count in my book. It gives WB far too much leeway to deny they were actually referring to Batman, should they feel the need to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 The Justice League's new trailer is up. My reaction is kind of mixed; they are working a bit harder on making it fun, but this could be all the somewhat amusing bits in the entire film. If you're relying on Batman to be your light and fun character, you've got a character confusion. On the other hand, this looks to be a film version of the animated Justice League: War, which was well done. There are sequences they obviously can't use, such as the race between Flash and Superman, and Captain Marvel ("Shazam") isn't around yet. My guess is Darkseid already has Superman's body and has revived him, trying to turn him. They are fine with superhero names, costumes, and identities, something Marvel Studios seems to think is too childish to have in their films. And the action looks appropriately epic for their power level (you see why the Batmobile is bristling with guns in the trailer). At the same time, I'm not happy with the costuming, its way too complicated and busy. The Flash has a speed skater-style helmet on for streamlined running... and then he's covered with all these facts and breaks and textures that would slow him in the air and increase friction. So, mixed bag, and still gloomy lighting and a very narrow pallet because apparently Snyder only thinks in dark gray and brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdamnhero Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 If you're relying on Batman to be your light and fun character, you've got a character confusion. Word. And it still annoys me that it's Bruce Wayne doing the recruiting rather than Batman, but whatever. On the other hand, this looks to be a film version of the animated Justice League: War, which was well done. I didn't see that one, but it was based on the storyline from the New 52 relaunch, which wasn't bad. That story was written by Geoff Johns, so now that he's HMFIC at DC/WB it's not too surprising they'd borrow from that. Tho that story had them all coming together mid-crisis, rather than having Batman recruit them one at a time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdamnhero Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 By the way, is it supposed to be a secret/surprise that Superman is going to be in this movie? Cuz if so it's not exactly a well-kept secret... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 It's the sort of info that you can readily find if you know where to look; but many people don't, or don't want to know too much before going to see a movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 And it still annoys me that it's Bruce Wayne doing the recruiting rather than Batman, but whatever. I agree, not fond of that. Its pretty obvious they're trying to make Bruce Wayne the Tony Stark of the DC universe, but they should be smarter than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 I'm sure Affleck wants to spend as little time in the batsuit as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 It goes against an actor's instinct to keep his face covered. That takes away from one of his most important tools for communicating to the audience. On the story front, though, I actually like that it's Bruce Wayne doing the gathering, and not trying to hide his being Batman from the other heroes. I know secret identities can be a big deal in comics, but there are times when they're not appropriate. If you're trying to build a team you have to build trust among your team mates, and hiding who you are from them won't bring you that. Besides, given Batman's reputation, trusting him won't come easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 It goes against an actor's instinct to keep his face covered. That takes away from one of his most important tools for communicating to the audience. Although a great actor can work with it and make it powerful -- See Hugo Weaving in V and to a lesser extent Captain America. You couldn't even see his eyes in V for Vendetta, but he was powerful. I think its mostly ego and wanting face time. Burrito Boy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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