Tech Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Can a mental attack such as a Mind Blast or Mental Illusions, be spread to give you a bonus to your OECV? I'm inclined to say 'no' as the Champions Complete talks about increasing your OCV but still thought I'd ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ndreare Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 I am curious what the ruling is on this. Personally I would allow it, because the Mental Blast being so over priced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Baker Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 CC 147 says it's up to the GM what ranged attacks can be spread. FWIW, 6E2 50 specifically calls out Mental Blast as the only mental attack that can be spread (with a caveat for AVADs that count as "mental attacks"). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuSoardGraphite Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Yes bur the dice to CV trade off isnt as efficient as Blast because of the cost difference. (10pts per D6 rather than 5pts) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Chalk that up to the price of doing business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuSoardGraphite Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 The Ultimate Mentalist covers this as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Baker Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Yes bur the dice to CV trade off isnt as efficient as Blast because of the cost difference. (10pts per D6 rather than 5pts) Chalk that up to the price of doing business. Spreading uses Damage Classes, not dice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Yes, but if your Damage Classes are reduced, so are the number of dice you're chucking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Baker Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Yes, but if your Damage Classes are reduced, so are the number of dice you're chucking. Sorry, thought you were agreeing with NuSoardGraphite's statement that spreading Mental Blast isn't as efficient as spreading Blast, which isn't true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Neilson Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 I am curious what the ruling is on this. Personally I would allow it, because the Mental Blast being so over priced. OVERpriced? Blast, AVAD Mental Defense (+1), Line of Sight (+1/2), Alternate CV (OMCV vs DMCV +1/4), IPE (imperceptible to 1 sense group; +1/2) should cost 5x3.25 = 16.25 points per 1d6. It costs 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmjalund Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Don't forget No Knockback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netzilla Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Don't forget No Knockback AVAD covers that since an AVAD attack does no body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmjalund Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 but doing No Body doesn't mean that you don't count Body for knockback purpooses (AFAIR) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netzilla Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 6E2 pg 114 3rd paragraph under Knockback: Attacks that don't do Body don't do knockback and AVAD attacks are explicitly called out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Neilson Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 You did, however, need special permission to have Mental senses detect your Attack Power, rather than the much more common Hearing sense group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 I've never really liked spreading attacks very much to begin with. I should say actually that I have no problem with it, I just don't like it being available to everyone for free (sort of like how now everyone can use missile deflection for free). I think it should cost you points to be able to do, like the 57 flavors of autofire abilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech Posted June 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 How can everyone use missile deflection for free? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netzilla Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 How can everyone use missile deflection for free? If you have an appropriate object/sfx, then you can use the block maneuver against a ranged attack. For example, a knight using his shield to block an arrow can now be done without needing to buy a power first. On the other hand, a knight blocking said arrow with just his sword (let alone bare-handed) is a much harder sell. If it were a common trope of the genre (such as a high-romance samurai campaign), I'd allow arrow cutting (possibly at a penalty). If it were a game based off A Song of Ice and Fire, I wouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Its kind of up to the GM, really. Missile Deflection isn't a power any more in 6th edition. Its just something you can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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