Bazza Posted July 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 Related, and has a similar premise, but The Incredibles is not the Fantastic Four. Starlord 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted July 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 5 hours ago, Scott Ruggels said: I have no hope for the Fantastic Four. The Only acceptable version was Roger Corman's that he did for that German Rights holder, a film that never got wide release Wikipedia states that the film was not officially released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranxerox Posted July 23, 2022 Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 32 minutes ago, Bazza said: Related, and has a similar premise, but The Incredibles is not the Fantastic Four. True, but still more of a Fantastic Four film than the last too Fantastic Four films. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted July 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 So basically you are stating that the Incredibles has more of the essential qualities of the premise of the Fantastic Four than is exhibited in the last two films titled Fantastic Four. The last FF film i will grant acknowledgement too. The one before that with The Silver Surfer, I watched so long ago, I can't acknowledge one way or the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted July 23, 2022 Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 FF should be a film about a family that happens to have superpowers, as opposed to a film about superheroes that happen to be related. The Incredibles was the former. To me the FF lend themselves much more to an episodic TV format than a feature film, though I’m sure it must be possible to make a successful film. Christopher R Taylor, Scott Ruggels and Joe Walsh 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Christopher R Taylor Posted July 24, 2022 Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 Quote To me the FF lend themselves much more to an episodic TV format than a feature film, though I’m sure it must be possible to make a successful film. I would love to see them do that, a longer running series (of shorter episodes) that keys into a film for the climax of the story. There are a lot of comic book characters this would better serve such as Batman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted July 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 Marvel is doing it again with Daredevil so anything is possible. edit: spoke too soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lord Liaden Posted July 24, 2022 Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 8 hours ago, Scott Ruggels said: There are many problems with Marvel films right no, and it all happened because Bob Eiger and Kevin Feige tossed Ike Permutter out the door, as Perlmutter was the number one Marvel Comics fan. They tossed him, because he would not greenlight a Black Panther Movie. I have never heard of Ike Perlmutter being a major Marvel Comics fan. I have heard that he's a notorious penny-pincher who tried to squeeze the budgets for Marvel productions for every dollar he could save, so far as to buy the cheapest food for the studio craft tables, and not reusing Marvel movie themes (a common complaint about Phase One and Two Marvel movies) because it worked out to be cheaper to pay for a new score for each one. The reports I read as to why Perlmutter was pushed out of executive direction of Marvel movies, is that Kevin Feige was tired of fighting with Perlmutter over budgets, so went over his head to Bob Iger to get full creative control. Perlmutter remained in charge of Marvel's television division. If you want to see his "love" for the genre, check out the production values for Inhumans. Scott Ruggels, Joe Walsh, Lawnmower Boy and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted July 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 I watched Inhumans. It was inhumane… Scott Ruggels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted July 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 FF, & Avengers 5 & 6 belong to Phase 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Ruggels Posted July 24, 2022 Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 2 hours ago, mattingly said: True, unless you consider The Incredibles to be a Fantastic Four film. It's not, but it is close. But I see The Fantastic Four, as an Adventuring Family going up against cosmic unknows, more firmly Science Fiction that oh, say, Thor, or Dr. Strange. Yes they have Superpowers, but it's mostly about the places they go, and the gadgets they use (and the interpersonal friction that almost but not quite edges up along side family dysfunction). The Fantastic Four was my Second Comics love, after the DC War comics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted July 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 This looks like a costume from Inhumans (Marvel TV) not Marvel Studios. Lord Liaden and Christopher R Taylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Ruggels Posted July 24, 2022 Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 53 minutes ago, Lord Liaden said: I have never heard of Ike Perlmutter being a major Marvel Comics fan. I have heard that he's a notorious penny-pincher who tried to squeeze the budgets for Marvel productions for every dollar he could save, so far as to buy the cheapest food for the studio craft tables, and not reusing Marvel movie themes (a common complaint about Phase One and Two Marvel movies) because it worked out to be cheaper to pay for a new score for each one. The reports I read as to why Perlmutter was pushed out of executive direction of Marvel movies, is that Kevin Feige was tired of fighting with Perlmutter over budgets, so went over his head to Bob Iger to get full creative control. Perlmutter remained in charge of Marvel's television division. If you want to see his "love" for the genre, check out the production values for Inhumans. Oh he was a notorious penny pincher, but he was also very much an American Patriot, and also talked a lot with Stan Lee, apparently. His choices for Movies for Marvel to make depended on the Character's popularity, and the Toy sales for his toy company, Playmates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted July 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Bazza said: 54 minutes ago, Bazza said: FF, & Avengers 5 & 6 belong to Phase 6. The multiverse Saga encapsulates Phase 4-6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slikmar Posted July 24, 2022 Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 So, looks like Namor is introduced in Black Panther - Atlantis vs Wakanda apparently. Cool Beans, will make me miss Boseman more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted July 24, 2022 Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 Namor is one of my all time favorite characters, he's such an arrogant ass but still you have to like, or at least respect him. And while its not original to the character, making him this hot stud that Sue Storm's head is turned by while geeky and awkward Reed Richards is totally overshadowed by him is a great twist. Its just going to be tough to make him stand out now that johnny come lately Aquaman basically stole his entire schtick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted July 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 Black Panther 2 is almost a Flashpoint without the universe-reset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattingly Posted July 24, 2022 Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 8 hours ago, Scott Ruggels said: It's not, but it is close. I meant The Incredibles is the best Fantastic Four film in the same sense that Galaxy Quest is the best Star Trek film. Cancer, BoloOfEarth, Old Man and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted July 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 So pastiche/parody? Reading the Wikipedia page for The Incredibles, the personalities are typical family roles. I see this as being different to the FF. Yes they have a lot in common (family of superheroic sci-fi adventurers) but there have been other adventuring families, mainly without superpowers, and FF is more pulpy whilst The Incredibles are retro-futuristic. Ergo they are as much tangential to each other; same but different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted July 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 Realising more than ever that Black Panther 1 draws on the Arthurian myth of the Once And Future King. Killmonger is basically Mordred. mattingly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted July 24, 2022 Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 3 hours ago, Bazza said: So pastiche/parody? Homage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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