slikmar Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 5 hours ago, Christopher R Taylor said: Its part of the character arc, his redemption moment. For Downey its about the part and the story of his character, not playing Tony Stark. He loves the misery that Tony goes through and its a perfect chance to show Iron Man finally learns to be a hero instead of a self centered egotist trying to control the world. Hmm, I really thought that moment was in the first Avengers movie when he flew a Nuke into space assuming he wouldn't have the power to return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 That was definitely Tony's "hero" moment, effectively a response to Cap's accusation earlier in the movie that Tony isn't the kind of man to sacrifice himself for someone else. But in spite of the growth in his character from movie to movie, Stark's monumental ego and need to control everything have been shown to screw things up for him and others, time and again. To be fair, when you've been a world-class douche most of your life, the road to enlightenment is bound to be long and bumpy. Doc Shadow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Tony does seem to be the Avengers worst enemy. Matt the Bruins and Doc Shadow 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 I disagree. Totally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 The screen writers are Tony's worst enemies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Shadow Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 4 hours ago, Lord Liaden said: I'm going to call this now, just based on the trailer, 'cause I also have a Stark-sized ego. But if I'm right I guess this would count as a spoiler, so Reveal hidden contents I'm betting Pepper Potts puts on the Iron Man armor to save Tony, and is the one we see Thanos pounding into the ground. I also believe that's whose hand a grieving-looking Tony is shown holding at the start of the trailer, because Thanos kills her. If true, that could be a moment RDJ might enjoy playing. At least it would get rid of Paltrow. And thanks, Old Man. Old Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Maybe I should start campaigning for a Rescue film... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Okay. We know Tony has control issues (and ego). In Iron Man he is confronted by accountability. He makes weapons, but until it happens to him he was happy with there being zero accountability. In Age of Ultron Tony thinks "a suit of armor around the world" and creates Ultron. (Genius moron) In Captain America: Civil War Stark is confronted by a mother whose child was killed by Stark's creation. Stark feels guilty. Wants there to be accountability, but does not want to be held personally accountable for his part in the creation of Ultron, so he passed the buck (and the Sokovia Accords) to the Avengers. Otherwise, Stark would have accepted full responsibility for Ultron and his creation's actions. Stark, based on his need to not be personally accountable (because, hey, he signed the Accords), puts Hawkeye, Wanda, Ant-Man, and Falcon under arrest/confinement in the Raft (probably without any kind of due process). And Cap pretty much an exile in Wakanda. Doc Shadow and drunkonduty 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Like a lot of superhero movies, the cause of almost all Tony's troubles is... him. He doesn't go out so much to fight injustice and bad guys, but to fix the messes he creates. Sometimes making far worse messes. His momentary flashes of heroism generally are driven by ego and how he'll appear to others, not any sense of altruism or heroic intent. The guy is entertaining enough but like the Fantastic Four in every movie, things would generally have been better off without them in the world. Doc Shadow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Robert Downey Jr gives entire Avengers: Infinity War crew personalised chairs http://metro.co.uk/2018/01/20/robert-downey-jr-gives-entire-avengers-infinity-war-crew-personalised-chairs-7245978/ What a nice gesture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 That was a classy move. Mind you, it's not like Downey couldn't have afforded it. Christopher R Taylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 It's the thought, not the price tag, that counts. He's not buying everyone an engagement ring... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmjalund Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 hour ago, zslane said: It's the thought, not the price tag, that counts. He's not buying everyone an engagement ring... Have you checked under your chair?[/OPRAH] Lawnmower Boy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 http://www.superherohype.com/news/410869-first-look-at-brie-larson-in-costume-as-captain-marvel#/slide/1 Old school suit RDU Neil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 Unpossible. I can't see her belly button Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 I approve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 The thing with Captain Marvel is that the character never really had a specific, well-known look other than a conspicuous star at some point, so you can do pretty much what you want with the character. Personally I'd prefer a more comic booky superhero look but Marvel wants to stay with the flight suit/leather design for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmjalund Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Hermit said: Unpossible. I can't see her belly button It's probably still there, tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 I demand that I be allowed to inspect this situation personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 29 minutes ago, Christopher R Taylor said: The thing with Captain Marvel is that the character never really had a specific, well-known look other than a conspicuous star at some point, so you can do pretty much what you want with the character. Personally I'd prefer a more comic booky superhero look but Marvel wants to stay with the flight suit/leather design for everyone. Except the 20-odd years she spent in the black leotard with a lightning bolt across it with a red sash belt and a domino mask. The only time it went away was when she was Binary and it came back when she stopped being Binary. It even lasted into her Warbird period. Lord Liaden, Bazza, Lawnmower Boy and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 Armory 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 I'm thinking it's not going to be her final costume, just something she has initially as a nod to the original Mar-Vhel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 Except black in place of silver/white, naturally. They're probably saving the bright, vivid colors for the end credits where she tries on the blue and red costume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 For some reason, that suit does make me think, "Kree." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 Captain Marvel over the years: The costume has changed quite a bit over the years, and there are like 4 other variants I didn't even put up there. Remember Carol Danvers was originally Ms Marvel, different character (sash, but otherwise other costume). But the movie posters have her in her more modern costume, less butch than the current comic book character, but the same sort of design. I really liked the Monica Rambeau version, personally. BoloOfEarth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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