Starlord Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Yeah, he'd learned some cool new stuff in Thor. He also handled Loki pretty easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 On 12/2/2017 at 7:19 AM, zslane said: The evolution of Thanos' look is the evolution from "vanilla CGI model" to "CGI model of Josh Brolin with a funny chin". I don't particularly agree with this approach since I want Thanos to be depicted as an entirely unique individual, like Gollum, not the CGI equivalent of Brolin in prosthetic make-up. It's possible that that's a concession/favor to Brolin. Not every actor is Hugo Weaving or Karl Urban, willing to leave the mask on all movie long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 I think that's 75% of it. Josh Brolin needed his face showing to act. My guess is the other 25% is that its a lot easier to CGI around a real face than to overlay one, adapted to expressions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasBroot Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 I honestly didn't recognise him without his iconic helmet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 I don't see the problem with Thanos looking like the actor playing him. Steve Rogers also looks like Chris Evans, Tony Stark looks like Robert Downey Jr., Hawkeye looks like Jeremy Renner, etc., etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Well yeah, because they are supposed to just look like people. I mean this is like having V for Vendetta be a guy with a goatee, because that way he shows his face better. Thanos is supposed to look like a huge barely human alien monster. Now Thanos just looks like Brolin with a chin prosthetic. zslane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 10 minutes ago, Christopher R Taylor said: Thanos is supposed to look like a huge barely human alien monster. Now Thanos just looks like Brolin with a chin prosthetic. Exactly. The whole reason to make Thanos an all-CGI character is so that he can look like this (not so he can look like an actor we know): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Eh, the reason you make Thanos an all-CGI character is because he's 8 feet tall and CGI is so good now. Hulk looks like Ruffalo, Caesar (Planet of the Apes) looked like Serkis, whoopdeedoo IMO. YMMV. Lawnmower Boy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Hulk looks like Ruffalo for the same reason almost-Gollum looks like Andy Serkis...the CGI character was morphed into from the human/hobbit portrayed by an actor. Thanos has no such associated "normal person" upon which to logically base his appearance. Caesar doesn't look like Serkis to me. To my mind, seeing Serkis in Caesar is like seeing Jesus in a potato. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 First of all, Thanos essential looks like a purple, mottled human, not a monster...let's stop acting like he's Cthulhu or a giant lobster. The obvious point is MOST vaguely humanoid characters played by actors generally look like the actors, whether in makeup, masks, prosthetics, CGI or all these in different combinations. Worf looks like Michael Dorn, Joker looks like Ledger, Nicholson, or Leto, etc...its the strength of performance that ultimately lets you enjoy the role as your watching. Furthermore, I also KNOW an actor's playing a certain role simply because of his voice - when Hugo Weaving is full-on Red Skull, I say in my mind, "Yep, that's Hugo", then go back to enjoying his great performance. Anyway, that's how I see it. Lawnmower Boy and bigdamnhero 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slikmar Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 I wonder if Thanos getting the Power Gem from the Nova's won't end up resulting in the "creation" of Nova the hero we know. In the Annihilation mega series years back, a big part of that was that the Corps was wiped out and Richard Rider basically absorbed the whole Nova force, which put him on a level with the heavy hitters of the universe (Gladiator, Surfer, Adam Warlock etc.). Would be very cool if that was the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted December 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Thanos has the Infinity Watch, gauntlets are so last year... Iuz the Evil, Lawnmower Boy, Grailknight and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted December 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 A proposal: Lawnmower Boy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted December 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 This is both Strange and Wrong, I mean Wong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 21 minutes ago, Starlord said: The obvious point is MOST vaguely humanoid characters played by actors generally look like the actors, whether in makeup, masks, prosthetics, CGI or all these in different combinations. That's primarily because even when it would have benefited a production to have an all-CGI character instead of an actor in prosthetics, it was either cost-prohibitive or simply impossible at the time. I think we all agree that MCU Hulk is much more like what we expect the Hulk to look like than the Lou Ferrigno Hulk. By the same token, I would have preferred to see an all-CGI Thing instead of Michael Chiklis in a rubber suit. In the same vein, Thanos should neither be an actor covered in prosthetics, nor an all-CGI model sculpted to look like a well-known actor. There's just no reason to do that apart from SAG contract clauses and/or outdated beliefs about what audiences will "connect with". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Its possible that in his armor with the helmet it will work better, but its still too normal human looking I think. The comparison photos speak for themselves pretty strongly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted December 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Joe Russo: ""[Thanos] has a more casual approach in this film, and it's very philosophical for him," explained Russo at San Diego Comic-Con. "It's part of his character definition. It's a spiritual journey for him to collect the Stones, and one with which he doesn't need armor. Once he starts acquiring the Stones, he doesn't need armor in the same way he did when he was a war lord. It's a very symbolic costume."" source: http://m.au.ign.com/articles/2017/07/23/avengers-infinity-war-director-explains-thanos-more-casual-spiritual-costume Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted December 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 On 02/12/2017 at 1:37 PM, Christopher R Taylor said: Oh I think people are plenty interested but he's got a point; they'd have even more buzz and excitement if there was more time between projects. But as is, its sufficient for the film's popularity. But the Homer/Thanos was kind of an obvious parallel. He doesn't look right. He doesn't even look intimidating. I mean compare: Thanos from end of Avengers Thanos from trailer You've got to admit, he's kind of lost something. The first screen grab from the Avengers is a different actor before Brolin was cast. The bottom one is Thanos on casual Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 MCU: Minutiae about whether Thanos looks too much like Josh Brolin. DCU: Batman shoots and brands people while Superman levels cities and then dies. Grailknight, massey, Bazza and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slikmar Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 3 hours ago, zslane said: By the same token, I would have preferred to see an all-CGI Thing instead of Michael Chiklis in a rubber suit. Actually, that was Chiklis's choice and demand. He wanted to play the Thing. I didn't think he looked bad and was glad to have an actor play a part that really wanted to and knew the character very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lord Liaden Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 12 hours ago, slikmar said: Actually, that was Chiklis's choice and demand. He wanted to play the Thing. I didn't think he looked bad and was glad to have an actor play a part that really wanted to and knew the character very well. Performance capture hadn't progressed to the point it has now. You couldn't convey the same subtleties of performance with CGI as with physical makeup. I'm sure Chiklis would feel differently today if he had the same opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 16 hours ago, slikmar said: Actually, that was Chiklis's choice and demand. He wanted to play the Thing. I didn't think he looked bad and was glad to have an actor play a part that really wanted to and knew the character very well. Oh, I'm sure he did make that demand, but as a viewer I don't feel the results of his demand paid off. If a FF movie were to be done today, I'd rather see the Thing be all CGI, like the Hulk, actor demands be damned. Christopher R Taylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 A look back at how it all began (In particular, the happy accident that was the SLJ Nick Fury post-credits scene.) Armory 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 On 12/5/2017 at 3:24 PM, zslane said: Oh, I'm sure he did make that demand, but as a viewer I don't feel the results of his demand paid off. If a FF movie were to be done today, I'd rather see the Thing be all CGI, like the Hulk, actor demands be damned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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