pinecone Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 If you're a Hollywood exec, apparently yes I call Megan Fox as Batgirl! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted April 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Does Cap's Marty Stu-ness ruin the film simply because he is a Marty-Stu? Do they spend at least 43 minutes properly explaining exactly how Thor's hammer works so the cinematic universe will make sense? Does the black dude playing Black Panther look properly African? Is Baron Zemo an Asian who doesn't know martial arts? Do all the characters have the correct height, weight, and breast size as they do in the comics? If the answers are yes, then I will go I guess...but knowing Marvel they'll just give us another great story with fantastic action...bummer. Answers: 1) Does Cap's Marty Stu-ness ruin the film simply because he is a Marty-Stu? Cap can't be a Marty-Stu as the original creators are not involved in the film. Also none of the people involved in the current film have projected themselves onto Cap, so no Marty Stu. 2) Do they spend at least 43 minutes properly explaining exactly how Thor's hammer works so the cinematic universe will make sense? Yes. And it is awesome. Aunt May goes to CostCo and runs into Odin who is now a CosCo Door Greeter. It turns out it really is due to fingerprints, well holographic fingerprints. When an Asgardian is deemed worthy their fingerprints become holographic, a feature than humans from Earth can't match, so this is why no human from Earth can lift Mjolnir. Odin says that Vision (he referred to him as "construct") lifting the hammer is a "bug" and will be fixed in Mjolnir Enchantment 2.0. 3) Does the black dude playing Black Panther look properly African? Yes. As does...and... 4) Is Baron Zemo an Asian who doesn't know martial arts? No, Baron Zemo is related to Baron Mordo setting up Doctor Strange. The Doctor Strange easter egg is Capital-A awesome. 5) Do all the characters have the correct height, weight, and breast size as they do in the comics? Yes, except for 1) Scott Lang who gains a few pounds 2) Vision's man-boobs are corrct breast size as per the comics -- they look awsome! 6) If the answers are yes, then I will go I guess...but knowing Marvel they'll just give us another great story with fantastic action...bummer. Yep. Disclaimer: Two answers or part of answers are serious responses, the rest is for humourous effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Punisher confirmed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuSoardGraphite Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 If Panther's accent isnt properly Wakandian enough, I'm not seeing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted May 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 If Panther's accent isnt properly Wakandian enough, I'm not seeing it. So I'm guessing you are seeing it then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 What does Wakandian sound like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Fozzie Bear Wait, that's Wakka Wakka Kandan Burrito Boy, Tom, BoloOfEarth and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmower Boy Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Fozzie Bear Wait, that's Wakka Wakka Kandan Hermit will not be available for the rest of the afternoon, as he is out being beaten with a stick. L. Marcus and Hermit 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted May 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 What does Wakandian sound like? It sounds awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Good, but I'm sure someone will complain that it doesn't sound like what has only been written in print all these years.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Well, ya know, there's that whole Thor not speaking Shakespearean English in his movies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 True those are the words he uses, but I've read Thor and Black Panther comics for nearly 40 years and, because it's only printed words, I still couldn't tell you what an Asgardian or Wakandan accent is 'supposed' to sound like.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted May 2, 2016 Report Share Posted May 2, 2016 These days Thor just speaks with a different font, from what I've seen. He dropped all the Thees and thous because Millar/Nicieza et al thought it was lame and, like, old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted May 2, 2016 Report Share Posted May 2, 2016 Traditionally, Marvel has written foreign language dialogue as English in angle brackets, usually with an asterisk referring to a footnote pointing out what language it is supposed to actually be. If anyone can extract an authentic patois from that, they have impressive magical linguistic powers. Christopher R Taylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted May 4, 2016 Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 In Hero System terms, I'd call this an outstanding example of Pushing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
massey Posted May 4, 2016 Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 In Hero System terms, I'd call this an outstanding example of Pushing. Wow. Cap apparently pushed his Density Increase to drag that thing down so his feet could touch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted May 4, 2016 Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 He's much stronger in the films than he is in the original comics. Probably in "ultimate" universe he's really strong, too. But this looks a bit ridiculously strong, way beyond his reasonable capacity even as depicted in the films. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted May 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 Iirc, that is all Chris Evan too, he bulked up just for that scene. The biceps bulging is all Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
massey Posted May 4, 2016 Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 He's much stronger in the films than he is in the original comics. Probably in "ultimate" universe he's really strong, too. But this looks a bit ridiculously strong, way beyond his reasonable capacity even as depicted in the films. Remember when he threw his motorcycle in Avengers 2, and it smashed that Hydra jeep? This isn't really any stronger than that. Movie Cap has always seemed about a 45 Str to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
massey Posted May 4, 2016 Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 Of course, I haven't seen the movie yet, but it seems a lot easier to just pull yourself up into the helicopter and fight Bucky for the controls. Christopher R Taylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted May 4, 2016 Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 Well lets look it over in Hero terms. A standard news helicopter type can lift about 3000 kg and fly at 287 kph. In hero terms that's about 320m noncombat speed and 35 STR. So yeah you're probably right that's roughly within his demonstrated Strength. He's not Spider-Man level (40 STR) but he's pretty close after he threw that motorcycle (which again I thought was a bit much, but the Ultimate characters have never really been statted out, so they can do whatever the writer figures they can). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted May 4, 2016 Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 Ultimate Cap is very strong...as naked Giant-Man can attest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
massey Posted May 4, 2016 Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 Ultimate Cap is also a prick. I like Movie Cap much better. Lawnmower Boy and Shadow Hawk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted May 4, 2016 Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 Well yes, there is that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted May 4, 2016 Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 He's not Spider-Man level (40 STR) Technically, I'd say around 47-48 STR for Spidey. He can lift 10 tons over his head. So, he needs enough Hero STR to lift 20 tons. The STR chart in Ultimate Brick (5E) is in kg. So, it's 18.1437 metric tons for US 20 tons. 47 STR is 17 metric tons, 48 STR is 19 metric tons. Since I like round numbers I'd put him at 45-50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.