Pariah Posted July 6, 2013 Report Share Posted July 6, 2013 Back in 4th Edition, Eurostar received a makeover and some new members. (This was before the consolidation with Terror Inc., I believe.) I'm trying to remember who they all were. So far I've come up with: Fiacho Durak Le Sone Mentalla White Flame Bora The Whip I'm sure I've forgotten someone. Who is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted July 6, 2013 Report Share Posted July 6, 2013 Pantera? Scorpia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemming Posted July 6, 2013 Report Share Posted July 6, 2013 Yep, you forgot Pantera. Scorpia was one of the Terror Inc people that joined after Terror Inc imploded in 5th. (I think Feuer joined as well?) They're in Classic Enemies from 1989. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted July 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2013 Pantera! How the heck did I forget her? I had a character that was mauled by her once. Thank heaven for resistant defenses! Thank you so much for your help. Wish I could Rep you both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted July 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2013 Yep, you forgot Pantera. Scorpia was one of the Terror Inc people that joined after Terror Inc imploded in 5th. (I think Feuer joined as well?) They're in Classic Enemies from 1989. Yes, I think he's called Feuermacher or some such thing now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted July 7, 2013 Report Share Posted July 7, 2013 I've got all the Enemies book and Eurostar is a favourite. The originals are indeed Fiacho, Durak, Pantera, Le Sone, Mentalla and Bora. Then you get White Flame and The Whip. And then you get Feurmacher and Scorpia with Bora being the most significant casualty of the remake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starblaze Posted July 7, 2013 Report Share Posted July 7, 2013 Those guys were nasty. I think the team brick Durak was the slowest one and he had a dexterity of 23 and speed of 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet Posted July 7, 2013 Report Share Posted July 7, 2013 Those guys were nasty. I think the team brick Durak was the slowest one and he had a dexterity of 23 and speed of 5. Our team MidGuard fought them 10 years ago next month and it was a brutal fight. At one point in the battle every member of our team was either Stunned or unconscious, but we managed to turn it around a few Phases later and most of them are still in prison. Durak was too tough to just KO since our own brick was absent, so we ended up mentally paralyzing him instead after we'd taken down Mentalla. Scorpia OTOH was pretty much a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted July 7, 2013 Report Share Posted July 7, 2013 Those guys were nasty. I think the team brick Durak was the slowest one and he had a dexterity of 23 and speed of 5. Our team MidGuard fought them 10 years ago next month and it was a brutal fight. At one point in the battle every member of our team was either Stunned or unconscious, but we managed to turn it around a few Phases later and most of them are still in prison. Durak was too tough to just KO since our own brick was absent, so we ended up mentally paralyzing him instead after we'd taken down Mentalla. Scorpia OTOH was pretty much a joke. One of characters in my group went one-on-one with Scorpia. "Daaaaaaannnnnnng. I heard you were good," before he landed the blow that took her out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted July 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2013 Those guys were nasty. I think the team brick Durak was the slowest one and he had a dexterity of 23 and speed of 5.And an 80 STR, if I recall correctly. Ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 Actually, the original Eurostar, from Enemies II, consisted of just five members: Fiacho, Durak, Le Sone, Bora, and Pantera. I believe that may have been the reason for the "star" in "Eurostar," i.e. five "points." Classic Enemies for 4E added Mentalla, the Whip, and White Flame to the lineup. That was the first published appearance of Mentalla and her brother, Menton. Conquerors, Killers, And Crooks for 5E kept Fiacho, Durak, Mentalla, and Le Sone (renamed "Ultrasonique") from the previous lineup, and added two members from the disbanded Terror Inc., Scorpia and Feur (renamed "Feurmacher"). The 5E supplement Champions Universe: News Of The World brought Pantera back into the team. Eurostar's latest incarnation, in Champions Villains Vol. 2: Villain Teams for 6E, kept the roster above, but added Der Westgote. He had previously appeared for 5E in The Ultimate Brick and Evil Unleashed, the latter of which mentions him joining Eurostar. The version of the team appearing in Champions: New Millennium for the Fuzion system basically re-used the members of the 4E team in terms of powers and appearance, but seriously modified their backgrounds, as well as renaming several. Fiacho became "Fenris," Durak became "Centurion," and the Whip became "Scourge." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 Actually, the original Eurostar, from Enemies II, consisted of just five members: Fiacho, Durak, Le Sone, Bora, and Pantera. I believe that may have been the reason for the "star" in "Eurostar," i.e. five "points." Classic Enemies for 4E added Mentalla, the Whip, and White Flame to the lineup. That was the first published appearance of Mentalla and her brother, Menton. Conquerors, Killers, And Crooks for 5E kept Fiacho, Durak, Mentalla, and Le Sone (renamed "Ultrasonique") from the previous lineup, and added two members from the disbanded Terror Inc., Scorpia and Feur (renamed "Feurmacher"). The 5E supplement Champions Universe: News Of The World brought Pantera back into the team. Eurostar's latest incarnation, in Champions Villains Vol. 2: Villain Teams for 6E, kept the roster above, but added Der Westgote. He had previously appeared for 5E in The Ultimate Brick and Evil Unleashed, the latter of which mentions him joining Eurostar. The version of the team appearing in Champions: New Millennium for the Fuzion system basically re-used the members of the 4E team in terms of powers and appearance, but seriously modified their backgrounds, as well as renaming several. Fiacho became "Fenris," Durak became "Centurion," and the Whip became "Scourge." Re your edit reason, yeah tell me about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 Those guys were nasty. I think the team brick Durak was the slowest one and he had a dexterity of 23 and speed of 5.Yeah, I had a few characters get worked over by Eurostar, but the experience wasn't as traumatic as Wrath of the Horsemen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 Those guys were nasty. I think the team brick Durak was the slowest one and he had a dexterity of 23 and speed of 5.The Horsemen included some real powerhouses, but they were described as not being well coordinated as a team, whereas Eurostar are supposed to be the epitome of teamwork. Run as smart as they're supposed to be, Eurostar can be deadlier than Dr. Destroyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted July 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 Actually, the original Eurostar, from Enemies II, consisted of just five members: Fiacho, Durak, Le Sone, Bora, and Pantera. I believe that may have been the reason for the "star" in "Eurostar," i.e. five "points." Classic Enemies for 4E added Mentalla, the Whip, and White Flame to the lineup. That was the first published appearance of Mentalla and her brother, Menton. Conquerors, Killers, And Crooks for 5E kept Fiacho, Durak, Mentalla, and Le Sone (renamed "Ultrasonique") from the previous lineup, and added two members from the disbanded Terror Inc., Scorpia and Feur (renamed "Feurmacher"). The 5E supplement Champions Universe: News Of The World brought Pantera back into the team. Eurostar's latest incarnation, in Champions Villains Vol. 2: Villain Teams for 6E, kept the roster above, but added Der Westgote. He had previously appeared for 5E in The Ultimate Brick and Evil Unleashed, the latter of which mentions him joining Eurostar. The version of the team appearing in Champions: New Millennium for the Fuzion system basically re-used the members of the 4E team in terms of powers and appearance, but seriously modified their backgrounds, as well as renaming several. Fiacho became "Fenris," Durak became "Centurion," and the Whip became "Scourge." "Weird forum software behavior"? I can't imagine such a thing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alverant Posted July 11, 2013 Report Share Posted July 11, 2013 Actually, the original Eurostar, from Enemies II, consisted of just five members: Fiacho, Durak, Le Sone, Bora, and Pantera. I believe that may have been the reason for the "star" in "Eurostar," i.e. five "points." Classic Enemies for 4E added Mentalla, the Whip, and White Flame to the lineup. That was the first published appearance of Mentalla and her brother, Menton. Conquerors, Killers, And Crooks for 5E kept Fiacho, Durak, Mentalla, and Le Sone (renamed "Ultrasonique") from the previous lineup, and added two members from the disbanded Terror Inc., Scorpia and Feur (renamed "Feurmacher"). The 5E supplement Champions Universe: News Of The World brought Pantera back into the team. Eurostar's latest incarnation, in Champions Villains Vol. 2: Villain Teams for 6E, kept the roster above, but added Der Westgote. He had previously appeared for 5E in The Ultimate Brick and Evil Unleashed, the latter of which mentions him joining Eurostar. The version of the team appearing in Champions: New Millennium for the Fuzion system basically re-used the members of the 4E team in terms of powers and appearance, but seriously modified their backgrounds, as well as renaming several. Fiacho became "Fenris," Durak became "Centurion," and the Whip became "Scourge." I don't remember White Flame but most of my 4E books were lost in a flood. I keep thinking of Fuer because there was something about how he was unable to turn off his powers that made him lash out as society. What happened to him? I know in the Viper/Eurostar war in 6E Whip and Bora were killed (Bora had NO passive resistant defenses so I imagined that Viper KOed her while she was flying over a cathedral with a bunch of spikey bits). But no mention of White Flame. I guess with Fuermacher he was redundant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opale Posted July 12, 2013 Report Share Posted July 12, 2013 White Flame was in Champions : The New Millenium setting Watching Opale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted July 12, 2013 Report Share Posted July 12, 2013 In Champions 4ed, White Flame was an English aristrocrate with mystical flame powers who became a member of Eurostar. Eventuly, when evaluating the need for White Flame for 6ed, it was decided that him and his mystical flames were not needed. And seeing that Terror Inc. wasen't going to be used except for background information anymore...took a more evil flame user (Fuermacher, mostly because he can't shut his flame powers off and has a woe is me, but if I am going to be hurt, I will hurt eveyone else mentality). Err...that should of been 5ed, not 6ed. Same universe, just earler in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted July 12, 2013 Report Share Posted July 12, 2013 Actually, the original Eurostar, from Enemies II, consisted of just five members: Fiacho, Durak, Le Sone, Bora, and Pantera. I believe that may have been the reason for the "star" in "Eurostar," i.e. five "points." Classic Enemies for 4E added Mentalla, the Whip, and White Flame to the lineup. That was the first published appearance of Mentalla and her brother, Menton. Conquerors, Killers, And Crooks for 5E kept Fiacho, Durak, Mentalla, and Le Sone (renamed "Ultrasonique") from the previous lineup, and added two members from the disbanded Terror Inc., Scorpia and Feur (renamed "Feurmacher"). The 5E supplement Champions Universe: News Of The World brought Pantera back into the team. Eurostar's latest incarnation, in Champions Villains Vol. 2: Villain Teams for 6E, kept the roster above, but added Der Westgote. He had previously appeared for 5E in The Ultimate Brick and Evil Unleashed, the latter of which mentions him joining Eurostar. The version of the team appearing in Champions: New Millennium for the Fuzion system basically re-used the members of the 4E team in terms of powers and appearance, but seriously modified their backgrounds, as well as renaming several. Fiacho became "Fenris," Durak became "Centurion," and the Whip became "Scourge." White Flame never existed (as of yet) in the Champions 5ed/6ed/Complete Universe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Goradin Posted July 12, 2013 Report Share Posted July 12, 2013 Just roll with whatever floats your boat , it's your universe! Champions Earth 27? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armitage Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 It was also mentioned in the 4e Champions Universe book that the Vandaleur twins had begun working extensively with Eurostar, although they hadn't officially joined the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 It was also mentioned in the 4e Champions Universe book that the Vandaleur twins had begun working extensively with Eurostar, although they hadn't officially joined the team.That's a frightening prospect. A super-mage is about the only thing Eurostar lacks. I wonder if an alliance with Cairngorm would be feasible... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 I GM both Eurostar and Terror, Inc. The second group took a long hiatus in the campaign but they're still around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Terror Inc. is still in my campaign version of the CU, too, along with the Asesinos. I like my Latin America lively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuestionMan Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 I mixed them up together. The Asesinos and Terror Inc., but rarely get to use them. Sighs QM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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