Gary Ciaramella Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 I am writing up a transformation power and I have no idea... what is the Body and Defense of a gallon of water? Anyone have a clue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 I know that the body of inanimate substances is based on mass. So don't know the exact answer, but I know that if for example a liter of water was 1 BOD, then 2 BOD is 2 litres, 3 BOD is 4 liters, 4 BOD is 8 liters, etc. Lucius Alexander The palindromedary buys Power Defense as a Defense Power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveZilla Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 I would think the Power Defense for water to be zero. IIRC, it also has zero for PD and ED. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Depends on the attack. Heat/Fire can transform water to steam. Cold can transform to ice. Other attacks tend to penetrate without damage done to the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Ciaramella Posted March 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 My idea is to have a brew potion power by making a transformation attack to transform water and ingredients into a potion, giving the resulting liquid powers according to the rules listed in the 5e revised core book. So, it will not really require much transformation attack for the water and ingredients, most of the need for transformation will be to add the powers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasha Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 My idea is to have a brew potion power by making a transformation attack to transform water and ingredients into a potion, giving the resulting liquid powers according to the rules listed in the 5e revised core book. So, it will not really require much transformation attack for the water and ingredients, most of the need for transformation will be to add the powers. Seems like a lot of trouble to make potions. Perhaps just buying the power with Focus and Charges? Or just handwaving the whole thing and saying that the Alchemist brewed the potions with the correct skill roll and having the ability to use the spell imbued into the potion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffinman01 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 I know that the body of inanimate substances is based on mass. So don't know the exact answer' date=' but I know that if for example a liter of water was 1 BOD, then 2 BOD is 2 litres, 3 BOD is 4 liters, 4 BOD is 8 liters, etc. Lucius Alexander The palindromedary buys Power Defense as a Defense Power[/quote'] That's the best/easiest way. 5th ed revised has 1.6 kg of an unliving substance (ie water) having 1 body and it doubles for each additional body (so 3.2 kg has 2 body and 6.4 kg has 3). As for defense I would assume 0 PD/ED under most circumstances. The only times I think it would change would be high velocity impacts (bullets, falling objects, etc) or due to special effects such as those mentioned by Greywind. Since you're using it to simulate brewing a potion, I would assume 0 defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyber624 Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 My idea is to have a brew potion power by making a transformation attack to transform water and ingredients into a potion, giving the resulting liquid powers according to the rules listed in the 5e revised core book. So, it will not really require much transformation attack for the water and ingredients, most of the need for transformation will be to add the powers. Talk to your GM. If you are the GM be aware that this could EASILY get out of hand if you establish this as a precedent. Generally speaking I would require Transform powers to accumulate around 20 BODY on pretty much anything they tried to transform just for a balance perspective. Transforming something with 0 BODY shouldn't be "free" (especially since you could Transform it into something with much more Body afterwards.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 What's the BODY and DEF of a bag of mostly salt water with some trace elements and a hard, calcium-based supporting structure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJoe3 Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 What's the BODY and DEF of a bag of mostly salt water with some trace elements and a hard, calcium-based supporting structure? 10 BODY but no Resistant DEF. It does have 2 PD and ED, though. :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armitage Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 According to The Ultimate Brick, a cubic hex (7 cubic meters, 7000 liters, 1848 gallons) of water has 6 BODY. If you assume -1 BODY per halving, a 55-gallon drum of water would have 1 BODY, not counting the drum, obviously. In the Creating Objects section of the Transform description (6E1 306) it suggests creating 4 liters of water per BODY rolled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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