Tasha Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 So it appears that changing the shape of the Warp generators decreases the power required for it to work. Also stuttering the field also gives huge power savings. So it's looking like it may be possible to produce AD2300's Stutterwarp drive. Theoretically capable of moving ships at 10x the speed of light. Article here: http://news.yahoo.com/warp-drive-may-more-feasible-thought-scientists-161301109.html Damn, and I was hoping for something like Jump Space or Hyperspace to be available. LOL. Darned thing probably won't work anyways, but one can hope! Tasha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier Onassiss Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 Re: New Math suggests that Warp Drive may actually be possible So it appears that changing the shape of the Warp generators decreases the power required for it to work. Also stuttering the field also gives huge power savings. So it's looking like it may be possible to produce AD2300's Stutterwarp drive. Theoretically capable of moving ships at 10x the speed of light. Article here: http://news.yahoo.com/warp-drive-may-more-feasible-thought-scientists-161301109.html Damn, and I was hoping for something like Jump Space or Hyperspace to be available. LOL. Darned thing probably won't work anyways, but one can hope! Tasha This is probably a lot closer to Star Trek's warp drive than AD2300's stutterwarp; the latter's "FTL via quantum tunneling" remains de-bunked, but the warp drive in the linked article works via "warped space" principles. Now we just need some exotic matter.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 Re: New Math suggests that Warp Drive may actually be possible I'm thinking kickstarter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier Onassiss Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 Re: New Math suggests that Warp Drive may actually be possible I'm thinking kickstarter. I'm totally gonna steal that! I just finished reading John Scalzi's Redshirts and now I'm thinking about doing a SF parody at some point. The Galactic Assembly of Planets (The GAP, for short) will have a flagship, the Dubious Enterprise, and it shall be powered by the mighty Kickstarter Drive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 Re: New Math suggests that Warp Drive may actually be possible Being old enough to remember much wailing and gnashing of teeth by people of my parents' generation over "The New Math" curriculum of the early 1960s, the thread title gives me the giggles as an initial template for an NGD-style game, filling in the blank of the sentence, "New Math suggests [or indicates] _________________" and going for the greatest absurdity possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 Re: New Math suggests that Warp Drive may actually be possible This is a heck of a thing--makes me hope we might have interstellar travel in our lifetime. That would be one of those things like Lindbergh's flight across the Atlantic, or the first moon landing--that would make people say "If we can accomplish this--we can accomplish anything!" When was the last time we said that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clonus Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 Re: New Math suggests that Warp Drive may actually be possible Well no, it suggests it could be done more cheaply if it was possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmadanNaBriona Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Re: New Math suggests that Warp Drive may actually be possible It drops the power density requirements from "Impossible without a pet black hole" to something that we might be able to achieve with antimatter. It's really really groundbreaking and AWESOME news, but I doubt we'll see it in our lives unless we extend our lifespans. I expect we'll be able to take advantage of this discovery in about a century unless we go all Singularity, in which case we might solve all the technical problems pretty quickly. Then it's just down to actually building it and testing... but yeah... crazy exciting news, and not something I ever expected to hear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ternaugh Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Re: New Math suggests that Warp Drive may actually be possible Look, all we need is a ton of antimatter. I'm sure that Dan Brown can hook us up. JoeG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clonus Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Re: New Math suggests that Warp Drive may actually be possible It drops the power density requirements from "Impossible without a pet black hole" to something that we might be able to achieve with antimatter. But it doesn't deal with the real problem which is getting even a single gram of negative mass, much less five hundred kilograms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Re: New Math suggests that Warp Drive may actually be possible Being old enough to remember much wailing and gnashing of teeth by people of my parents' generation over "The New Math" curriculum of the early 1960s' date=' the thread title gives me the giggles as an initial template for an NGD-style game, filling in the blank of the sentence, "New Math suggests [or indicates'] _________________" and going for the greatest absurdity possible. Did someone say "New Math"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmadanNaBriona Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Re: New Math suggests that Warp Drive may actually be possible But it doesn't deal with the real problem which is getting even a single gram of negative mass' date=' much less five hundred kilograms.[/quote'] Yeah, but we've had some successes in creating anti-protons using accelerators firing into cushions of neutral particles. We're still at, IMHO, the banging-rocks-together-to-make-sparks level for this tech, which is why even with the current rate of advancement I give it a hundred years or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmjalund Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Re: New Math suggests that Warp Drive may actually be possible anti-protons have POSITIVE mass outside the casimir effect, and "electron-holes" we have yet to encounter anything real that has negativer mass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmadanNaBriona Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Re: New Math suggests that Warp Drive may actually be possible anti-protons have POSITIVE mass outside the casimir effect, and "electron-holes" we have yet to encounter anything real that has negativer mass D'oh. Right. That was kinda derpy of me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier Onassiss Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Re: New Math suggests that Warp Drive may actually be possible anti-protons have POSITIVE mass outside the casimir effect, and "electron-holes" we have yet to encounter anything real that has negativer mass ...and the occasional "answer" on physics 101 exams, of course. Unfortunately, most of those turn out to be mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJoe3 Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Re: New Math suggests that Warp Drive may actually be possible There's some speculation that a metamaterial which simulates negative mass could be created. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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