Cassandra Posted August 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 Re: Classic Super Hero Teams The X-Men It started out as a group of young heroes going on and protecting mutants, taking orders by a mastermind who had a brilliant mind but was confined to a wheelchair. They were opposed by the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants who wanted to turn those with powers to evil. Interesting take, but I think Professor X was unconsciously making people anti-mutant so he could send his team on missions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 Re: Classic Super Hero Teams Notable similarities to DC's Doom Patrol, another band of superpowered misfits led by a wheelchair-bound genius, which first appeared in print only a few months before the X-Men. Also interesting that the Doom Patrol's greatest enemies were the Brotherhood of Evil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assault Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 Re: Classic Super Hero Teams In turn, the Doom Patrol had much in common with the Fantastic Four. The FF resembled a cross between the Challengers of the Unknown and the JLA. The JLA was, of course, inspired by the JSA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 Re: Classic Super Hero Teams Wasn't so much "inspired" as "upgrade". All the original characters were revised, bringing their origins out of the pulps and into sci-fi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomGM2602 Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 Re: Classic Super Hero Teams Hey-Ho! Is it me? Or is anybody forgetting the greatest superteam of WWII-TheMighty Crusaders,which is now in its third incarnation at Archie[after a mini series stint at DC]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmower Boy Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 Re: Classic Super Hero Teams The Mighty Crusaders are cool, but they weren't around in the Forties, and I don't think their adventures have been set there, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RexMundi Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 Re: Classic Super Hero Teams The Mighty Crusaders are cool' date=' but they weren't around in the Forties, and I don't think their adventures have been set there, either.[/quote'] The Shield was. The rest rolled in around the Mid 60's or so. Got details at home. The team first showed up in The Fly's title and then they expanded from there. Current digital project is really good story wise. Nice legacy set up. DC really dropped the ball with the Red Circle property but did do a good take on both The Shield and The Web. Going so far as to swipe stuff from The Web and stuff it into Batman Inc. ~Rex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 Re: Classic Super Hero Teams The Shield was. The rest rolled in around the Mid 60's or so. Depends on the era. For the '60s bunch, the original Comet and Black Hood were part of the team, and I think the Comet made it into the '80s version as well. But yeah, they weren't a team in the '40s. I've noted elsewhere I find it odd that the JSA had so little competition back in the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RexMundi Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 Re: Classic Super Hero Teams There was competition, it's just all mostly Public Domain nowadays.... There are also a few other characters that could stand with the Shield if you had to like Steel Sterling, The Scarlet Avenger, Zambini the Miracle Man, The Web and a few others from "Archies" MLJ days back in the 40's.... The old Zip Comics imprint if I recall right..... ~Rex.... Brings the Comic Genius.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 Re: Classic Super Hero Teams By competition, I mean other super-teams. Other companies had anthology titles featuring the overall faves from their characters, and there were occasional team-ups, but most attempts at a full team lasted one or two tries. MLJ published a bunch of superheros back in the day, so you're right that it would not be hard to assemble one if one wanted. A recent issue of Alter-Ego featured a mock MLJ team cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted August 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 Re: Classic Super Hero Teams DC Comics has a number of Hero Teams, and at one time the Justice League had a rule that no two members could have duplicate powers. Makes me wonder about the make up of the various teams with that rule. The Justice League of America (Based in Metropolis and the oribiting Watchtower) Superman Batman Wonder Woman [Diana Prince] Flash [barry Allen] Green Lantern [Hal Jordan] Aquaman Martian Manhunter Atom [Ray Palmer] Black Canary [Dinah Laurel Lance] Hawkgirl [shiera Saunders Hall] Green Arrow [Oliver Queen] Zatanna Firestorm Red Tornado Vixen Fire Ice Mary Marvel The Justice Society of America (Based in Gotham City) Captain Marvel Sandman Mr. Terrific Power Girl Huntress Question Stargirl Striple Dr. Fate Flash [Jay Garrick] Green Lantern [Alan Scott] Spectre Hawkman Atom [Al Pratt] Black Canary [Diana Drake Lance] Wildcat Captain Atom Nightshade Wonder Woman [Queen Hippolyte] Teen Titans Supergirl Captain Marvel Jr. Robin [Tim Drake] Speedy Wonder Girl [Cassie Sandsmark] Kid Flash Aqualad Outsiders Nightwing [Dick Grayson] Starfire Batgirl Wonder Woman [Donna Tory] Cyborg Looker Katana Geo-Force Black Lightning Metamopho Work in progress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RexMundi Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 Re: Classic Super Hero Teams That the "No Duplicate Powers" Snafu from JLA 146? That was a writer gaff, apparently drawn from the Legion of Super Heroes background (hence I blame it on Superman having Flashbacks....). Hawkgirl was originally denied JLA Membership because the bylaws only admit one new Member at a time. Englehart basically pulled the No Duplications rule out of the hat in issue 146, mostly because previous to that the Silver Age JLA only held 4 Elections for new members (JLA # 4, # 14, # 31, # 42) ..... For a lot of reasons the JLA back in the day kept a tight reign on Membership, both on and off the pages...... ~Rex ....Now the Legion, that's a different story. Wildfire couldn't get in at first because when he first showed up all he could do was Duplicate everyone else's power (though that story did show he had a unique power....that would be a lot of dice on a Champions table heh)...Same with Lighting Lass/Light Lass etc etc .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahuna's bro Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Re: Classic Super Hero Teams lighning lass joined when lightnin lad was presumed dead after he revived drea girl altered her powers so she wouldnt have to resign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKJAM! Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Re: Classic Super Hero Teams The other superteam of the 1940s was the Seven Soldiers of Victory, aka the Law's Legionnaires. Members were: Vigilante, Shining Knight, Crimson Avenger, Star-Spangled Kid, Stripesy, Green Arrow and Speedy. (Wing, the Crimson Avenger's sidekick, went on every team mission, but was not officially a member. The white guys finally made him a full member posthumously in the 1970s.) Like the JSA, the Seven Soldiers tended to find out about a major threat, break up to solve individual pieces of it, then all join together at the end to finish the job. What made them a little different is that they're one of the few hero teams deliberately created by a villain. Seems there was this fellow who called himself the Hand, who thought he was dying. He hired five flamboyant criminals, his "fingers" to carry out "perfect crimes" that the Hand had devised. And just to increase his victory, the Hand sent messages to five mystery men (and their sidekicks) daring them to assemble and try to stop the crimes. It worked out pretty much how you'd expect. Post-Crisis, the Golden Age GA and Speedy never existed, so the Seven Soldiers' continuity snarled badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahuna's bro Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Re: Classic Super Hero Teams if i remeber what i read correctly post crisis the vigilants sidekick billy gunn was an official member as aws traitorus member called the spider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Re: Classic Super Hero Teams if i remeber what i read correctly post crisis the vigilants sidekick billy gunn was an official member as aws traitorus member called the spider You do recall correctly. Before that, they retconned it so Wing and Vigilante's other partner Stuff had been members. After that, in the Legacies mini of a few years back - which had a continuity so wacked out it was basically its own universe - TNT and Dan the Dyna-Mite were retconned in as members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted August 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 Re: Classic Super Hero Teams With all the changes in the DC Continuity over the years is it any wonder that I take comfort in Batman: The Brave and the Bold. The only problem with that show was that it ended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahuna's bro Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 Re: Classic Super Hero Teams With all the changes in the DC Continuity over the years is it any wonder that I take comfort in Batman: The Brave and the Bold. The only problem with that show was that it ended.as did i the post "chill of the night eps had the perfect balance of caped crusader and dark knight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 Re: Classic Super Hero Teams With all the changes in the DC Continuity over the years is it any wonder that I take comfort in Batman: The Brave and the Bold. Which built a continuity of its very own. Excellent show, agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted August 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Re: Classic Super Hero Teams There were only two problems with the Brave and the Bold 1) No Power Girl or Supergirl appearances. 2) It Ended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahuna's bro Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Re: Classic Super Hero Teams you're right about that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahuna's bro Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Re: Classic Super Hero Teams There were only two problems with the Brave and the Bold 1) No Power Girl or Supergirl appearances. 2) It Ended. cans omeone swing the reptonfafor me? or should i sa throw the batarang in this case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RexMundi Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Re: Classic Super Hero Teams You know, that Brave and the Bold cartoon had the best handling of Legacy I've seen just short of a JSA comic or the new Red Circle stuff. Not easy to do in that medium..... ~Rex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted August 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Re: Classic Super Hero Teams There were also a number of Easter Eggs (thought not special features). Starman sounding like Ted Knight. Death Traps jokers sees in the Batcave from the Adam West TV Show. John Welsey Shipp, the live action Flash as Professor Zoom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assault Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Re: Classic Super Hero Teams cans omeone swing the reptonfafor me? or should i sa throw the batarang in this case? Got her for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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