TechnoViking Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Has anyone ever found a PDF copy of the famous Strikeforce for sale? Would love to get a copy of it. T-V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Re: StrikeForce for Champions I don't think there ever was a PDF version I have a dead tree version and have seen a copy or 2 used at some game stores over the yrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 Re: StrikeForce for Champions I got my hardcopy off eBay for not too much coin. Not seeing it on there right now, but keep an eye out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 Re: StrikeForce for Champions you might want to call Game Empire in Pasadena Ca (626)304-9333 they had 1 a few weeks back in their used books section for like 5 bucks see if you can make arrangements to ship it to you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Shrike Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 Re: StrikeForce for Champions Nope. In fact the only copy I've ever seen is the one I own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 Re: StrikeForce for Champions I've seen like three times that many copies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 Re: StrikeForce for Champions I've seen a number of hardcopies of the book over the years, and they still become available from various retailers and private sellers from time to time. And yes, I have one, and no, you can't have it. There was no such thing as commercially-available electronic books when Strike Force was first published. Any PDF copy would have to be manually scanned from an existing hardcopy. Unless that scan came through Aaron Allston, who has ownership of the characters, any such PDF would be illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armitage Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 Re: StrikeForce for Champions I got my hardcopy off eBay for not too much coin. Not seeing it on there right now' date=' but keep an eye out.[/quote'] Noble Knight Games currently has a copy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 Re: StrikeForce for Champions Had. Did you buy it or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armitage Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 Re: StrikeForce for Champions Nope. Found a copy at my FLGS years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadDomain Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Re: StrikeForce for Champions Noble Knight Games currently has a copy. Hey thanks! I'm not the OP but I went there anyway and bought some stuff I wanted for a while like Strikeforce and Watcher of the Dragons. I have no clue what is so great about Strikeforce but since it seems like everyone is raving about it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Re: StrikeForce for Champions It's one of the best campaign manuals ever for the superhero genre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadDomain Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Re: StrikeForce for Champions It's one of the best campaign manuals ever for the superhero genre. Would someone care to elaborate what is so great about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Re: StrikeForce for Champions If you've already bought it, read it. Aaron Allston wrote it about his own campaign that he was running. Loads of characters, how they interact with one-other. In some cases why they act that way. Just a lot of good ideas with strong writing and a lot of thought behind how it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Main Man Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Re: StrikeForce for Champions I wish I could get my hands on a copy. Is it even in print anymore? PDF? If not, then, well, crap... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Re: StrikeForce for Champions Hasn't been in print forever, hence the pita it is trying to track a copy down. Any PDF versions would be bootleg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinecone Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Re: StrikeForce for Champions Has anyone ever found a PDF copy of the famous Strikeforce for sale? Would love to get a copy of it. T-V I don't think it exists...it sort of "pre-dates" PDFs....though I suppose the Author could re-release it as a PDF...IF the legal issues would allow.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Re: StrikeForce for Champions Would someone care to elaborate what is so great about it? It's basically a compendium of a really well run Champions campaign. So the PCs are well thought out, with lots of background and history, and they show how the characters were built both at the start of the campaign at how they looked at the end of it. Lots of narrative of how things played out in the campaign and why. Discussion about player interaction issues that came up during the campaign and how they handled them. And some house rules along with the reasons for them. Even though it's a bit out of date now, it's still an excellent learn-by-example sourcebook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadDomain Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Re: StrikeForce for Champions If you've already bought it' date=' read it. [/quote'] Sir! Yes Sir! I would if I had it but I just ordered it so I will have to wait a bit. Aaron Allston wrote it about his own campaign that he was running. Loads of characters, how they interact with one-other. In some cases why they act that way. Just a lot of good ideas with strong writing and a lot of thought behind how it works. Ok thanks, will read it as soon as it arrives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadDomain Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Re: StrikeForce for Champions It's basically a compendium of a really well run Champions campaign. So the PCs are well thought out' date=' with lots of background and history, and they show how the characters were built both at the start of the campaign at how they looked at the end of it. Lots of narrative of how things played out in the campaign and why. Discussion about player interaction issues that came up during the campaign and how they handled them. And some house rules along with the reasons for them. Even though it's a bit out of date now, it's still an excellent learn-by-example sourcebook.[/quote'] Intriguing! Sounds like good stuff. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasha Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Re: StrikeForce for Champions I've seen a number of hardcopies of the book over the years, and they still become available from various retailers and private sellers from time to time. And yes, I have one, and no, you can't have it. There was no such thing as commercially-available electronic books when Strike Force was first published. Any PDF copy would have to be manually scanned from an existing hardcopy. Unless that scan came through Aaron Allston, who has ownership of the characters, any such PDF would be illegal. Doesn't this really depend on the Contract that Aaron Allston had with Hero Game for publishing? I was thinking that they might still have the rights to sell the book that he already wrote for them. That would depend on the contract. re:PDF's of the work. The book was computer typeset. So there either is or was either Pagemaker or QuarkXPress files of the book. They would have used those products to create high resolution pages that the printer would then photograph to make plates. This is why I asked the folk in the Company. They might know. Also if they were able to sell the original PDF, they could possibly send royalty payments to the Estate (assuming that there was a clause for Royalties in his contract for the book). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Baker Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 I can't believe anyone would pay this, but it's listed used on Amazon (3rd party seller of course) for $450! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinecone Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 I can't believe anyone would pay this, but it's listed used on Amazon (3rd party seller of course) for $450! Seems a mite high, but it is a collectors item, and the author has passed away.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 I seriously doubt the prospects for a PDF of the Strike Force book earning enough money to be worth the effort. Yes, it has a reputation among hard-core Champions fans, but let's face it, that's not a large market. Collectors love the original because it has a cachet and is in limited numbers, but collectors are an even smaller subset of an already small group. When you come down to it, it's a thirty-year-old book using a long-antiquated version of the HERO System. Don't get me wrong, I love Strike Force. You'll have to pry my copy from my cold, dead hands. But I bought it when it was first published. It's part of my memories and evolution as a gamer. I seriously doubt newer HERO players will react to it the same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasha Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 I am starting to think that Hero should be looking at it's past. The game is over 30 years old now and many of the old products are getting hard to find and are decaying. I keep thinking about the fact that I can go onto Far Future's website and buy PDF's of every edition of every RPG that GDW ever published. This is our history, it would be a huge shame to allow it all to decay into nothing. Far futures also sells individual books on DriveThruRPG. Heck even Hasbro has gotten into the act and released PDF's of lots of their earlier works. I know that Hero Games has limited money, but we have a fanbase that is at least as fanatical as the Traveller Fanbase. We should be able to get some Community involvement in getting some of these long out of print books out as PDFs. Like I was saying a lot of the stuff should exist on SOMEone's hard drive as Pagelayout files. Those should be pretty easy to turn into PDF's Adobe's tools for doing so are pretty robust and easy to use. I think you underestimate how much call people have for this stuff. We get people on this board all of the time asking for earlier editions. It would be great to be able to point them towards a PDF (or even a Print on Demand) option for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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