csyphrett Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 Re: Examples of low-powered/street level supers not from comics One guy did this. I forget his name at the moment but he used to be some kind of bootlegger, or a wannabe. After he became immortal, he would shoot his enemy to paralyze them and then cut off their heads. He does this to Duncan, but doesn't finish the job the first time. The second time they meet, he gets served CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Tom 2009 Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 Re: Examples of low-powered/street level supers not from comics How about Ryo from the City Hunter anime (series and OVA movies)? His skill with a gun could qualify him as a low-powered super, and he can be hardcore at times (in one of the CH OVAs, he's shown shooting through his own hand in order to slow the bullet down just enough to hit the guy he's aiming at, without the slug blowing thr- ough and hitting any innocent bystanders). He's also a certified lech, and only takes on jobs that involve beautiful women. Major Tom 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 Re: Examples of low-powered/street level supers not from comics One guy did this. I forget his name at the moment but he used to be some kind of bootlegger, or a wannabe. After he became immortal, he would shoot his enemy to paralyze them and then cut off their heads. He does this to Duncan, but doesn't finish the job the first time. The second time they meet, he gets served CES Xavier St. Cloud used mercenaries. Lord Byron used what appeared to be a Derringer. Paul Kinman used a 9 mm. Morgan D'estang used a knife dipped in kurare to kill Duncan. Lost his head before Duncan died. Johnny Kelly shot Duncan but was interrupted by a couple of guys coming into the storage area they were in. James Horton shot Duncan but was stabbed before he could take the head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 Re: Examples of low-powered/street level supers not from comics I think Kelly is the one I was thinking about. I remember St. Cloud used poison gas on people, and Horton used renegade watchers. Didn't Dawson kill an immortal once? The thing I have noticed about many immortals which might go back to the circular story pattern is that they get good at one thing and keep at that unless they have some kind of drastic event happen to change the pattern. Callas as a singer and theater producer. The former nazi officer leading neo-nazis The bounty hunter/lawman that Richie kills Amanda CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddHat Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 Re: Examples of low-powered/street level supers not from comics We forget what we don't use. Skills atrophy. I sometimes read things I wrote fifteen or twenty years ago and think "Wow, I don't remember anything about that." I kind of like the idea of immortals who become very, very good at one or two things they keep practicing ("I've been doing yoga two hours per day every day for 300 years") and completely forget things they haven't had to do for a long while ("I haven't spoken Etruscan for over 2000 years; I have no idea what the hell this inscription means.") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosshairCollie Posted October 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 Re: Examples of low-powered/street level supers not from comics It is somewhat disheartening how many of these characters are just 'a dude with a weapon', though. It worries me that if I tried running this game, I'd wind up with a Dark Champions shoot'em'up rather than superheroes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddHat Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 Re: Examples of low-powered/street level supers not from comics The line between Dark Chapions, Low Powered Superheroes (who aren't bullet proof), and Pulp can get iffy in a campaign. Mostly it's a case of remembering to keep things lighter hearted if you want a tv supers feel. Bad guys who menace but rarely shoot straight, lots of puns, a forgiving universe, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 Re: Examples of low-powered/street level supers not from comics There's also Mr. Terrific. Believe it or not, I can still recite that theme from memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Re: Examples of low-powered/street level supers not from comics I think Kelly is the one I was thinking about. I remember St. Cloud used poison gas on people, and Horton used renegade watchers. Didn't Dawson kill an immortal once? The thing I have noticed about many immortals which might go back to the circular story pattern is that they get good at one thing and keep at that unless they have some kind of drastic event happen to change the pattern. Callas as a singer and theater producer. The former nazi officer leading neo-nazis The bounty hunter/lawman that Richie kills Amanda CES Dawson killed Duncan during the Dark Quickening. To my recollection Dawson never beheaded an Immortal. He wanted to on a number of occasions. Kalas was a monk until Duncan and Paul found out Kalas was killing Immortals as they left Paul's sanctuary. Amanda's character grew with The Raven series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Re: Examples of low-powered/street level supers not from comics We forget what we don't use. Skills atrophy. I sometimes read things I wrote fifteen or twenty years ago and think "Wow' date=' I don't remember anything about that." I kind of like the idea of immortals who become very, very good at one or two things they keep practicing ("I've been doing yoga two hours per day every day for 300 years") and completely forget things they haven't had to do for a long while ("I haven't spoken Etruscan for over 2000 years; I have no idea what the hell this inscription means.")[/quote'] Immortals can get rusty with what they don't use but they tend to have rather long memories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapsedgamer Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Re: Examples of low-powered/street level supers not from comics We forget what we don't use. Skills atrophy. I sometimes read things I wrote fifteen or twenty years ago and think "Wow' date=' I don't remember anything about that." I kind of like the idea of immortals who become very, very good at one or two things they keep practicing ("I've been doing yoga two hours per day every day for 300 years") and completely forget things they haven't had to do for a long while ("I haven't spoken Etruscan for over 2000 years; I have no idea what the hell this inscription means.")[/quote'] Immortals can get rusty with what they don't use but they tend to have rather long memories. Yeah, I think it would probably be more like that. You would move your points around in the character to simulate the atrophy of certain abilities and the improvement of others. Even if you gain a lot of experience points, you still might sell back levels of certain skills and put the points to others. I got an A in Algebra 25 years ago, but I would be hard pressed to get a C now probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Re: Examples of low-powered/street level supers not from comics It is somewhat disheartening how many of these characters are just 'a dude with a weapon'' date=' though. It worries me that if I tried running this game, I'd wind up with a Dark Champions shoot'em'up rather than superheroes.[/quote'] A good way to simulate low end superheroics is one power at a 50-60 pt power and nothing else. Charlie from firestarter is a good example. Her power basically is setting stuff on fire and thats about it. Most low end heroics are going to be Ka-zar, Tarzan, Dino Boy, Hydroman and Rainbow type stuff. Out of all the suggestions on this thread, which do you like the most? CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Re: Examples of low-powered/street level supers not from comics Dawson killed Duncan during the Dark Quickening. To my recollection Dawson never beheaded an Immortal. He wanted to on a number of occasions. Kalas was a monk until Duncan and Paul found out Kalas was killing Immortals as they left Paul's sanctuary. Amanda's character grew with The Raven series. i believe Kalas was in charge of the choir and was known as a singer at the sanctuary, or at his later career. I remember the reason he hated Duncan beyond normal Immortal hate was Duncan ruined his voice with a missed chop. CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Re: Examples of low-powered/street level supers not from comics Wasn't a missed chop. Kalas was going to kill a friend of Duncan's as part of his revenge for getting tossed out of the sanctuary. During the fight Kalas had Duncan at a disadvantage. He grabbed a shard of glass from a broken door and cut Kalas's singing career short. Kalas sang in the choir but his other skill was as a scribe copying illuminated works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Re: Examples of low-powered/street level supers not from comics Wasn't a missed chop. Kalas was going to kill a friend of Duncan's as part of his revenge for getting tossed out of the sanctuary. During the fight Kalas had Duncan at a disadvantage. He grabbed a shard of glass from a broken door and cut Kalas's singing career short. Kalas sang in the choir but his other skill was as a scribe copying illuminated works. And later he was running the theater right? and promoting the singer? CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Re: Examples of low-powered/street level supers not from comics He owned the theater and arranged the contract to get Paul out of the sanctuary and to Seacouver to perform at Vanderbilt Hall. He also owned the Nosferatu Club in Paris. http://highlander.wikia.com/wiki/Kalas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
薔薇語 Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Re: Examples of low-powered/street level supers not from comics There is always the concept of Genetically modified characters, ala Jessica Alba's Dark Angel. La Rose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahuna's bro Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Re: Examples of low-powered/street level supers not from comics the mutant x tv seriesthey were volunteers test subjects for a scientific experement who unexpectedly gained powers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddHat Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Re: Examples of low-powered/street level supers not from comics The Sanctuary TV series presents a world full of supernatural monsters, most with fairly limited powers. A fairly strong & tough but not bullet proof caveman, an immortal with no other real powers but lots of experience, a teleporter with what looks like low level super speed, a full Vampire (the most powerful "PC"), an Invisible Girl, and a forensic psychologist with a high PER roll and a fair skill set. Almost forgot the Buffy clone, who goes Evil and gets a massive power upgrade later in the series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosshairCollie Posted October 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Re: Examples of low-powered/street level supers not from comics A good way to simulate low end superheroics is one power at a 50-60 pt power and nothing else. Charlie from firestarter is a good example. Her power basically is setting stuff on fire and thats about it. Most low end heroics are going to be Ka-zar, Tarzan, Dino Boy, Hydroman and Rainbow type stuff. Out of all the suggestions on this thread, which do you like the most? CES So far, the Mortal Kombat/Street Fighter stuff, though Sanctuary was another good one, though I'm not that familiar with it. My wife watches it, I just get the fallout when she geeks over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahuna's bro Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Re: Examples of low-powered/street level supers not from comics Does chuck bartoWsky count forthis threads purposes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosshairCollie Posted October 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Re: Examples of low-powered/street level supers not from comics Does chuck bartoWsky count forthis threads purposes If I had any idea who that was, I would answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escafarc Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Re: Examples of low-powered/street level supers not from comics If I had any idea who that was' date=' I would answer.[/quote'] The main character from the Chuck TV show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddHat Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Re: Examples of low-powered/street level supers not from comics You could use the lower power movie versions of Darna. Most were just flying girls with martial arts and enough speed to dodge or deflect bullets, not bounce them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkdguy Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 Re: Examples of low-powered/street level supers not from comics Some Highlander trivia: One immortal whom Dawson was tempted to kill was Armand Thorne (aka John Durgan), who murdered Joe's girlfriend. That role was played by the late Brion James, who also played villain Solomon Box in M.A.N.T.I.S. Another low-powered super would be Darkman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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