SSgt Baloo Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 ETA: 15 MAR 2012 I started a playlist > < on Youtube. If anyone finds something you think I might want to know about , either PM me a link or post it in this thread, if appropriate./ETA Ordinarily, superheroes shouldn't have to wait for the bus or hail a cab. This thread is for links to (or pictures of) aircraft, spacefraft, or any combination of the two that superheroes might use. XST-71V Supersonic Transport General Products Aerospace Shuttle Mk IV (GPA-S Mk IV) Golden Age Batman's Batplane (XP-67 Bat) ETA: I removed the original and replaced it with this, though I've done a couple of different variations on this same airframe since. CS-10 Chapparral The XST-71V supersonic transport is a development of the technology that went into the SR-71. The original purpose of this craft was to provide the US Military with a supersonic transport with VTOL capability for its Rapid-Deployment Forces. Unfortunately, the cost-benefits analysis for this VTOL-SST was completed after the first few prototypes had been assembled. The XST-71V was demilitarized and sold to Danforth Industries, which has refitted the vehicle with Electrostatic thrusters powered by a compact prototype electroplasma power generator. Performance is still classified, but top speed is estimated to be Mach 3+, and maximum altitude is more than 100,000 feet (roughly 30,000 meters). It is currently on loan to the International Defenders of Freedom. Originally designed as a SSTO replacement for the shuttle, the GPA-S Mk IV program was cancelled. In order to recoup at least part of the expense of developing the thing in the first place, GPA has made this shuttle available to several different superteams at different times. It is currently on-loan to the Near-Space Defence Force for testing advanced propulsion systems. When the Brotherhood of Justice asked to purchase the burned out hulk of the XB-190 so they could restore it to flying condition for their own use, the GAO advised the Air Force to sell it for whatever they could get, after removing all classified systems. Eight months later, Professor Mind rolled out this pale gold aircraft and began submitting paperwork to have it certified as a spacecraft. The FAA and Nasa were difficult to convince that the refurbished aircraft was now space-capable, but after a quick jaunt to the moon, officials approved the design. The BoJ has used this craft to construct their own space station in geostationary orbit above the U.S., and has even aided resupply of the international space station. Performance is unknown, but there is some speculation that the vehicle uses a faster-than-light propulsion system, at least when in space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiducia Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Re: Super Transportation HEROS one and all! I present to you... The Bugatti Veyron! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugatti_Veyron What my favorite car/Brit show had to say about it... http://www.topgear.com/content/features/stories/2006/01/stories/02/3.html Deck this baby out and you can't go wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSgt Baloo Posted July 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Re: Super Transportation I found a bunch of aircraft diagrams and had to download and clean up as many as I could (Scanned images often turn out a bit wonky). Of course, I can never leave well enough alone, so here's one of my first efforts.* Edit: JP-51 "Jetstang" *The P-67 and XST-71V are my first efforts, though the clean-up on the "Batplane" is still incomplete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DusterBoy Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Re: Super Transportation Ace pix, SSGT Baloo. I've always imagined a top-flight team of superheroes would have something that looked like USAF/Area 51/NASA "black project". I'd give it an electric (ie: "anti-gravity") propulsion system too. Is this a real science? It depends on who you ask. I suspect that an orthodox scientist would say no, but Thomas Townsend Brown and Dr Paul Biefeld, neither man regarded as a crackpot, had success with electro-hydrodynamics and the "Biefeld Brown Effect" is a real phenomenon. Of course, the controversy exists because of the crossover into UFOlogy and the banned phrase "anti-gravity". Of course, in a superhero campaign with super-genius gadgeteers, there's every possibility that there exists a working electro-gravitic drive. And maybe FTL as well. Of course, reproducing the technology is the trick, isn't it? I look forward to more of these pictures. :thumbup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checkmate Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Re: Super Transportation How about: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSgt Baloo Posted July 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Re: Super Transportation How about: [image deleted in the interest of unredundancy] Too many sharp angles and dark colors. Those are obviously the alien invaders commin' to take our wimmen! Seriously, good work! Another never-was from the Golden Age: XP-59C Comet II Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSgt Baloo Posted July 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Re: Super Transportation I just love oddball aircraft! Mig I-250 Sukhoi SU-5 Any Gerry Anderson production is also a good source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSgt Baloo Posted July 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Re: Super Transportation Y-35 HST & Spacecraft Patterned after the X-24B test vehicle. In case I haven't made it clear, you're welcome to use these vehicles in your own games, so long as you give credit if anyone asks (and which can be as vague as "This was done by some guy from the Hero System Boards"). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concord Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Re: Super Transportation This is the Erne (a type of sea eagle), it is the vehicle that the Wardens use to get from Alcatraz island to the mainland and the vehicle picture that was its inspiration. When designing/mapping a vehicle, I usually only work on half of it. Then when that half is completed I mirror it for the opposite half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concord Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Re: Super Transportation Here is the Pegasus and Hippogriff, the Wardens' VTOL aircraft. .......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSgt Baloo Posted July 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Re: Super Transportation When designing/mapping a vehicle' date=' I usually only work on half of it. Then when that half is completed I mirror it for the opposite half.[/quote'] Excellent technique. I use that method also. As a consequence, most of my vehicles are an odd number of pixels wide. Here is the Pegasus and Hippogriff' date=' the Wardens' VTOL aircraft.[/quote'] What I can see of them is pretty impressive. Can you do three-views of them (or if you can't, do you mind if I have a go at it)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concord Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Re: Super Transportation What I can see of them is pretty impressive. Can you do three-views of them (or if you can't' date=' do you mind if I have a go at it)?[/quote']Go ahead and have a go at it... I can see things from overhead but am not very good at extrapolating it to 3-view... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Re: Super Transportation we have a character that can teleport the team however the smallest hop is 1 km and most of the team are fairly slow ground pounders During a battle with Black Paladin our team needed to follow rapidly so everyone got into a dumpster and was carried to the next battle site the first Dumpster of Justice came to an end 30 seconds after landing when it was used to smash Black Paladin in a move through after he had been entangled less than a second before Mk 2(current version) has been made from an 8m long conex box fitted with enough armor to rival a battleship also included nanite comm system an air lock and life support system enough to get in to space with redundancy it can float and move very slowly on water and lastly a gravity based teleport system that can move the dumpster 1km,10 km,100km and interface with the powers of team's #3 brick whose powers increase it's range up to 600km per hop max capacity 9.6 tons + dumpster weight of 6.4 tons=16 tons total wt The Dumpster of Justice Val Char Cost Notes 6 Size 30 Length 4", Width 2", Area 8" Mass 6.4 ton KB -6 40 STR 0 HTH Damage 8d6 END [4] 0 DEX -30 OCV 0 DCV -4 16 BODY 0 24 DEF 66 0 SPD -10 Phases: (none) Total Characteristic Cost: 43 Movement: Swimming: 1"/2" Teleportation: 1"/2" Abilities & Equipment Cost Power END 16 Mind Link , human class of minds, Specific Group of Minds, Any distance, No LOS Needed, Number of Minds (x8), Psychic Bond (45 Active Points); IAF Immobile Fragile Expendable (Easy to obtain new Focus; -1 ¾) 14 LS (Safe in High Pressure; Safe in High Radiation; Safe in Intense Cold; Safe in Intense Heat; Safe in Low Pressure/Vacuum; Self-Contained Breathing) (19 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1) Notes: (x2 number of items) 24 Teleportation 1", x16 Increased Mass, Usable By Other (+¼), MegaScale (1" = 100 km; +¾), Can Be Scaled Down 1" = 1km (+¼) (49 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1) Perks 2 Fringe Benefit: Emergency Services Vehicle Talents 1 Eidetic Memory (5 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Fuel Dependent (fuel is Very Common; must refuel Once per 6 Hours; DVD discs; -¾), Activation Roll 14- (-½) Total Abilities & Equipment Cost: 57 Total Vehicle Cost: 100 Value Disadvantages 10 Distinctive Features: armored conex box named the dumpster of justice (Concealable; Noticed and Recognizable; Detectable By Commonly-Used Senses) 15 Physical Limitation: Steel box (Frequently, Greatly Impairing) 15 Reputation: graffiti target, 14- 20 Hunted: UNTIL 14- (As Pow, NCI, PC has a Public ID or is otherwise very easy to find, Watching) 10 Hunted: CLOWN 8- (Less Pow, PC has a Public ID or is otherwise very easy to find, Harshly Punish) 25 Hunted: Viper 8- (Mo Pow, NCI, PC has a Public ID or is otherwise very easy to find, Harshly Punish) Total Disadvantage Points: 95 Total Cost: 5/5 = 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSgt Baloo Posted July 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Re: Super Transportation Go ahead and have a go at it... I can see things from overhead but am not very good at extrapolating it to 3-view... Thanks! I'll download the top views now and see what I can come up with. The Dumpster of Justice.... "Dumpster of Justice"?!? *Snicker!* I'll bet everyone in your campaign is having much fun. ______________________________________ Even the badguys need cool transport. This would be for a Golden-Age campaign and is based on the Weserflug P.1003/1 (link provided). Der Schwebeflugfläche (Or "Hoverplane" Auf English.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcan Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Re: Super Transportation Dumpster of Justice! Priceless! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSgt Baloo Posted July 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Concord's Plane: Erne The Erne Although designed as a wing-in-ground-effect (WIG) aircraft, and thus classified as a boat for licensing purposes, the Erne may, with auxiliary power engaged, climb to 20,000 feet. It's intended operating altitude (IOA) is, however, only 35 feet. While cruising at IOA, the Erne consumes only slightly more fuel than it does while taxiing. With a cruise speed of up to 250 knots, the Erne is both faster and more fuel-efficient than airborne or even most waterborne vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSgt Baloo Posted July 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Concord's Plane: Hippogriff The Hippogriff The Hippogriff is the smaller of two VTOL aircraft used by the Wardens. It seats 5, including the pilot. There is a navigational dome just aft of the cockpit and both a dorsal hatch and aft ramp for easy egress. The V-tail design was chosen specifically to facilitate egress/ingress by flying supers while the craft is in flight. Edit: incorrect name has been corrected. Check back periodically as I try to improve the concept. Right noiw* I can see there's not much headroom. More Edit: I just figured out this IS the Hippogriff, so I'll be making changes. Stay tuned. (Hopefully) Last Edit: I think I've fixed all the glaring faults so it probably won't change any more. On to the Pegasus! * I must've been channelling TCWOAN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowcat1313 Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Re: Super Transportation some great vehicle designs folks on the Erne is that a real?concept vehicle? I know some of the soviet widge craft were capable of limited flight, but the fuel consompution went through the roof, and they couldnt keep it up for long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowcat1313 Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Re: Super Transportation ok, do you have stats for the Erne, or can I take a crack at it? just going by rough dimensional volume, were looking at a 36 displacement ton vehicle[500 cubic meters volume/14 giving 36 DT] do we have an idea on her speed and Dex? what era tech, cold war, modern, futuristic? how much detail do you want in the write up? is it armed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowcat1313 Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Re: Super Transportation ok, do you have stats for the Erne, or can I take a crack at it? just going by rough dimensional volume, were looking at a 36 displacement ton vehicle[500 cubic meters volume/14 giving 36 DT] do we have an idea on her speed and Dex? figuring Size 10, STR 60 what era tech, cold war, modern, futuristic? how much detail do you want in the write up? is it armed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concord Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Re: Super Transportation The Erne is a vehicle designed for transporting a superhero team... so my rating of the technology would be modern with futuristic elements... I haven't stat'ed it out yet... DEX and SPD would both be human max as the pilots are not 'supers'... if you want to take a crack at it be my guest. The picture it was based on was a concept vehicle that I found on this site http://www.se-technology.com/wig/index.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NestorDRod Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Re: Super Transportation Dunno if this helps at all, but way back in one of the supers game I played in, we used customized Moller Skycars (linky) for our team vehicles. IIRC, Susano even has stats for the beastie in his site. Yup, here it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSgt Baloo Posted July 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Re: Super Transportation Even more flying cars at Autoblog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowcat1313 Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Re: Super Transportation ok, heres version 1 of the Erne, unarmed, decent off the shelf sensor package, a little armor, chaff and flare pods and a radar warning receiver. ERNE V1 Val Char Cost Notes 10 Size 50 Length 10.08", Width 5.04", Area 50.8" Mass 102.4 ton KB -10 60 STR 0 Lift 102.4tons; 12d6 20 DEX 30 OCV 7 DCV 1 22 BODY 2 2 DEF 0 4 SPD 10 Phases: 3, 6, 9, 12 Total Characteristic Cost: 80 Movement: Swimming: 2" / 4" Leaping: 0" Flight: 48" / 1536" Cost Powers END Propulsion Modes 14 1) WIGE Flight: Flight 24", x8 Noncombat (58 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Fuel Dependent (fuel is Very Common; must refuel Once per 6 Hours; -3/4), Limited Maneuverability Only 1 turn per Phase at Combat speed; only 1 turn per Turn at Noncombat speed (-1/2), Difficult to Operate (-1/4), Crew-Served (2 people; -1/4), Only In Contact With A Surface (-1/4), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) Note: 2 large drive fans in armored housings above and behind cockpit 0 15 2) Standard Flight with Auxilary Power Systems: Flight 24", x8 Noncombat (58 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Fuel Dependent (fuel is Very Common; must refuel Once per 6 Hours; -3/4), Custom Modifier (20,000 feet service ceiling; -1/2), Crew-Served (2 people; -1/4), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) 0 Tactical Systems Defensive Systems 3 1) Radar Warning Receiver: Detect Detection By Radar 14- (Radio Group) (8 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) 0 4 2) Chaff and Flare Pods: Radio Group and Infrared Perception Images 1" radius (10 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), 6 Continuing Charges lasting 1 Turn each (-1/4), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) Note: mounted in sockets at bottom rear of drive fan housings [6 cc] 5 3) Crash Web Systems for Cockpit: Energy Damage Reduction, 50% (20 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Custom Modifier (only vs collision and roll damage; -1), Real Armor (-1/4), Extra Time (Full Phase, Only to Activate, -1/4), Limited Coverage Nearly 360 Degrees (Coverage does not protect some occupants; does not protect cargo area; -1/4) 0 7 4) Alloy Construction with advanced composites: Armor (4 PD/4 ED) (12 Active Points); Ablative BODY Only (-1/2), Real Armor (-1/4) 0 Electronics 10 1) Advanced Radar Package: Radar (Radio Group), +3 to PER Roll, Concealed (-2 with Radar PER Rolls), Increased Arc Of Perception (360 Degrees), Telescopic: +4 (27 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Sense Affected As More Than One Sense [very common Sense] (-1/2), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) Note: Top of Tail mounted bulge 0 7 2) Advanced Sonar Package: Active Sonar (Hearing Group), +2 to PER Roll, Concealed (-2 with Active Sonar PER Rolls) (19 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Sense Affected As More Than One Sense [very common Sense] (-1/2), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) Note: Arrays mounted in lower fintip pods forward of cockpit 0 9 3) FLIR: Infrared Perception (Sight Group), +3 to PER Roll, Discriminatory, Increased Arc Of Perception (360 Degrees), Telescopic: +3 (20 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) 0 3 4) Communications System: Radio Perception/Transmission (Radio Group) (10 Active Points); OAF Bulky (-1 1/2), Affected As Hearing Group As Well As Radio Group (-1/4), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) 0 6 5) GPS and Navigation Computer: Navigation (Air, Land, Marine) 14- (14 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Custom Modifier (Real Equipment; -1/4), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) Personnel Systems 19 1) Fire Extinguishing System: (Total: 98 Active Cost, 19 Real Cost) Detect Unauthorized/Uncontrolled Fires 14- (no Sense Group) (8 Active Points); Only Within Affected Area (20" x 20" zone; -2) (Real Cost: 3) plus Dispel Fire Powers 10d6, all Fire powers simultaneously (+2) (90 Active Points); Only Within Affected Area (20" x 20" zone; -2), 2 Charges (-1 1/2), OIF Bulky (-1), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) (Real Cost: 16) [2] 7 2) Pressurized Cabin: Life Support (Safe in Intense Cold; Safe in Intense Heat; Self-Contained Breathing) (14 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1) 0 Talents 1 Absolute Range Sense (3 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) 1 Absolute Time Sense (3 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) 1 Bump Of Direction (3 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) 2 Eidetic Memory (5 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) 2 Speed Reading (x10) (4 Active Points); OIF Bulky (-1), Custom Modifier (Real Gear; -1/4) Skills 4 +2 with Flight Total Powers & Skill Cost: 120 Total Cost: 200 200+ Disadvantages 10 Physical Limitation: +4 to enemy perception rolls with radar and sight in WIGE Mode (Frequently, Slightly Impairing) Note: when in WIGE mode the craft throws off a huge rooster tail like a hydrofoil or worse, making it easier to spot 15 Distinctive Features: known supergroup vehicle (Not Concealable; Noticed and Recognizable; Detectable By Commonly-Used Senses) 10 Physical Limitation: Air Breathing Engines, limited service ceiling , and cant go underwater (Infrequently, Greatly Impairing) 10 Reputation: known supergroup vehicle, 11- 0 Experience Points Total Disadvantage Points: 200 comments... questions... advice? 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SSgt Baloo Posted July 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Re: Super Transportation The Pegasus The Pegasus is the larger of two VTOL aircraft used by the Wardens. It seats 14, including the pilot/navigator and copilot/radio operator. There is a navigational dome just aft of the cockpit and both a dorsal hatch and aft ramp for easy egress. The V-tail design was chosen specifically to facilitate egress/ingress by flying supers while the craft is in flight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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