Tasha Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Re: Analysis of the Red-Shirt Phenomenon in Star Trek Not to mention how geeky I feel knowing Morgan Woodward who played Cpt. Tracy in Omega Glory also played Dr. Van Gelder in another episode. (Not to mention about 30 different guest characters on Gunsmoke) Note: And Williams Shatner was also a guest villain on at least one episode of Gunsmoke. Not to mention that for years, Deforest Kelly was THE go to guy if you wanted villain in a western. He had the face that could do "crazy guy with a gun" with almost no effort. ie to see this in action see him in the time travel episode "City on the Edge of Forever". He plays crazed quite well in that ep. While people DO joke about Redshirts. The reality is that a Large amount of crew wore the Red shirt with no deaths. The analysis that points out that the high Risk Factor Redshirts are Ships Security is right on the money. Basically Security on a Federation starship seems to be a cross between a Ship's troop (ie Marine) and Ship's defense force. The are obviously trained to take a bullet for the Sr Officers and other non Security Personnel sent down to the surface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasha Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Re: Analysis of the Red-Shirt Phenomenon in Star Trek Yes' date=' many of the shipboard deaths were casualties in Engineering because it is first of all, the most dangerous section of the ship and it's the one that probably has the most personnel. But that doesn't have much bearing on his analysis of the effectiveness of Kirk liasons at reducing redshirt mortality. (Which is entirely valid of course, because Kirk liasons reduce the time in the script which could be used to kill people.)[/quote'] Actually it seemed like Gunnery deck was at least as dangerous as Engineering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCoy Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Re: Analysis of the Red-Shirt Phenomenon in Star Trek The Most Interesting Man in the World played a red shirt on Star Trek—and survived It sounds like a bit from the Dos Equis commercials, but in this case, it appears to be true. Jonathan Goldsmith, who plays the beer company's Most Interesting Man in the World, appeared in the second episode of the original Star Trek series, "The Corbomite Maneuver." He only appears on screen for a moment, but he also doesn't get a death scene. [ATTACH=CONFIG]44973[/ATTACH] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmadanNaBriona Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Re: Analysis of the Red-Shirt Phenomenon in Star Trek As my ex just returned a stack of ancient materials to me, she had hidden away in a box somewhere, I happen to have my original Starfleet Technical Manualat hand. Turning to the section on Uniforms, letsee... Command:Tenne, Sciences:Blue, Engineering and Support Services: Red Interesting. Yep, division insignia confirms the same. Security does gets mentioned in the Org charts, tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 Re: Analysis of the Red-Shirt Phenomenon in Star Trek I always figured "ship security" was a euphemism for either "marine" or russian-style "naval infantry". In ground combat situations, it is only reasonable that they would take the majority of casualties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 Re: Analysis of the Red-Shirt Phenomenon in Star Trek ...like the Chief Engineer that missed the landing zone and plummeted to the planet below. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 Re: Analysis of the Red-Shirt Phenomenon in Star Trek ...like the Chief Engineer that missed the landing zone and plummeted to the planet below. I kinda figured he would die when he mentioned "I have the explosives". But only later did I noticed that he also had a red spacesuite... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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