Lucius Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick I think that's what's called "meta-commentary." jg So is my response to your post meta-meta-meta-meta-commentary? Lucius Alexander The palindromedary is a heavy meta fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Gillen Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick So is my response to your post meta-meta-meta-meta-commentary? Lucius Alexander The palindromedary is a heavy meta fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveZilla Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick Looks like our lizard priest is not happy working with the guild The "My Boss's Boss is also (reluctantly) my Boss" problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick And a new one: 850 not-thog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmadanNaBriona Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick why do I get this sense of foreboding, and keep having flashbacks of Deathstroke dismantling the Teen Titans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick why do I get this sense of foreboding' date=' and keep having flashbacks of Deathstroke dismantling the Teen Titans[/quote'] Well, when you replace raven with V it sound like the story told on this cover: http://insidepulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/new-teen-titans-2-pre-New-52-first-Deathstroke-Ravager-e1321400789969.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattingly Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick Even with Elan here, that's got to be a net positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick "magnificient" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Gillen Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick Using a multi-syllable word should be their clue right there. JG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick Using a multi-syllable word should be their clue right there. JG Only if they made their Listen checks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick Only if they made their Listen checks... Oh no, not the listen checks. They were never good at that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick I see another railroad fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manic Typist Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick I see another railroad fight. When trains fight.... the audience wins.... if it's far enough away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trencher Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick Sigh.. They are going to get their ass kicked again I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveZilla Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick Well, V isn't dead yet -- if he were, wouldn't that mean he starts "paying off" that triple soul bond thingy that let him kill all those dragons? And if he's not dead, there exists the possibility that something unexpected will revive him in time to join the fight and tip the outcome in the Order's favor. That, or the General's deception will be realized, and Roy will convince him that the greater threat, the greater *battle*, would be against Xykon and they set aside (termporarily) their differences to achieve the common goal of keeping the world where they are not destroyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick Well' date=' V isn't dead yet -- if he were, wouldn't that mean he starts "paying off" that triple soul bond thingy that let him kill all those dragons?[/quote'] Actually I never thought that they meant "when you die". I think they secured themself the ability to take over V's body when they need it, to influence the human world directly. Especially when V is still alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveZilla Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick Actually I never thought that they meant "when you die". I think they secured themself the ability to take over V's body when they need it, to influence the human world directly. Especially when V is still alive. Well, the terms that were stated in page 633 were that they would gain his soul for an equal amount of time. "Each of us will get your soul for the same amount of time that you are under the effects of their Soul Splice." They add that his soul would spend time with them. They didn't mention anything about his body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick Do elves have souls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick Well' date=' the terms that were stated in page 633 were that they would gain his soul for an equal amount of time. "Each of us will get your soul for the same amount of time that you are under the effects of their Soul Splice." They add that his soul would spend time with them. They didn't mention anything about his body. But on the same page V ask: "And my Soul will remain in complete Controll of this Gestalt for the entire duration". So Control of soul = Control of Body. Do elves have souls? If not, they could not sell it to demons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick Soul Splice. V had control of it for the duration of the joining. Wasn't the body. It was the blending of power that V controlled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveZilla Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick But on the same page V ask: "And my Soul will remain in complete Controll of this Gestalt for the entire duration". So Control of soul = Control of Body. I am not fully convinced. It was called a "Soul Splice", not a "Body Splice". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick I am not fully convinced. It was called a "Soul Splice"' date=' not a "Body Splice". [/quote'] But still V was concer that her Soul - not her Mind - stayed in control of her body during the soul splice. Think about it: Having her Soul for a few hours each in the afterlife would not get them anywhere. They could have just demanded the default "eternity after you die" deal - V even asked for it. But they specifically proposed the leasing deal with "Exact Order of Custody to be determined at a later point" and no mention of "after you die". They get controll over V's soul while V is still alive and kicking and it is established that the soul controlls the action of the body. Keep in mind that the evil externars (especially the Devil) are even better at the "Evil, Badass Manipulator" thing than Tarquin, Redcloak and Xykon Multiplied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveZilla Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick But still V was concer that her Soul - not her Mind - stayed in control of her body during the soul splice. To some, that might be the same thing. Think about it: Having her Soul for a few hours each in the afterlife would not get them anywhere. They could have just demanded the default "eternity after you die" deal - V even asked for it. They monologued a bit about their long-term goals, and stated that this was a proof-of-concept. Getting his soul (according to them, and even for a limited time) was not the goal of this offer. And V asked, presumably, due to an assumption, not that he *wanted* that to happen. But they specifically proposed the leasing deal with "Exact Order of Custody to be determined at a later point" and no mention of "after you die". They get controll over V's soul while V is still alive and kicking and it is established that the soul controlls the action of the body. The three are of the afterworld. They can make dealings with the living, but otherwise can't souljack someone. They way they get a soul to use is by its body dying. Like the three souls offered in the Splice. The "After you die" bit is presumed, given the way this fictionalized D&D-like world works. Keep in mind that the evil externars (especially the Devil) are even better at the "Evil' date=' Badass Manipulator" thing than Tarquin, Redcloak and Xykon Multiplied.[/quote'] True. But even they have limits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick They monologued a bit about their long-term goals' date=' and stated that this was a proof-of-concept.[/quote'] They told a lot of stuff. Inlcuding that they "just waited for the first request comming down the line", wich turned out to be utter nonsense. If it isn't part of the contract, it's not part of the contract. The three are of the afterworld. They can make dealings with the living' date=' but otherwise can't souljack someone.[/quote'] They don't have to Souljack V. V has a running Contract. A Contract in wich V guaranteed them access to his Soul for a amount of time as specified here: http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0667.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manic Typist Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Re: Order of the Stick That' date=' or the General's deception will be realized, and Roy will convince him that the greater threat, the greater *battle*, would be against Xykon and they set aside (termporarily) their differences to achieve the common goal of keeping the world where they are not destroyed.[/quote'] See, Tarquin has already explicitly acknowledged that Xykon needs to be dealt with..... and I forget what his motivation is for (temporarily) joining Nale's team. I thought he discussed it, but I can't seem to find it.... Maybe he didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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