L.Craig Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Does anybody know where I could find a copy of Strike Force for sale, is there any websites to checkout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Re: Strike Force My friend, you're asking for the Holy Grail of Champions collectables. Pretty rare to see them on sale, and often pretty pricey. Searching through my usual run of Internet sources, I found only one which is currently advertising any SF copies for sale. To keep anyone here from scooping up any or all of them before you get the chance, I'm sending the info on where to find it to you via Private Message. If that choice isn't satisfactory to you, I'll be happy to suggest other good online dealers who carry Champs stuff and have a chance of getting it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.Craig Posted November 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Re: Strike Force That was a big help thanks a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCMaenza Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Re: Strike Force I have to agree with Lord Liaden: this classic supplement is one of the best books from the early run of titles. It had a wonderful amount of details from the campaign from which it sprang. As a novice GM at the time, it really helped me to further comprehend how wonderful and encompassing a campaign could be. I hope L.Craig was able to find one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominique Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Re: Strike Force I've got the original, but I wonder if Aaron Allston has ever considered allowing them to scan it into PDF form, and allowing someone one to sell the down loads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchellS Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Re: Strike Force What I always find strange it that so many people say they liked/loved Strike Force but DoJ refused to emulate such a popular product and publish a similar style of book for the CU. You'd think DOJ would want to go where the money is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJackBrass Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Re: Strike Force I bought a copy about six months ago, and it took roughly half an hour to track down via the Internet. eBay is the first stop, but when the book does appear there it often attracts silly money as mentioned above. I found an individual's website where he was selling a few games at reasonable prices. Deciding that I could risk $10 I ordered it and, luckily, everything went splendidly... so it is possible to find the supplement without resorting to a massive cash outlay if you have a little luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Re: Strike Force I've got the original' date=' but I wonder if Aaron Allston has ever considered allowing them to scan it into PDF form, and allowing someone one to sell the down loads.[/quote'] I've seen the issue raised here a few times. Reportedly Steve Long has discussed the possibility with Aaron Allston in the past - nothing formal, just tossing ideas around. From what I've gleaned the main stumbling blocks have been (in no particular order of priority): settling on appropriate financial terms with Aaron, who owns the rights to all the characters; setting aside the time for a HERO staffer to scan the book; and concerns over the saleability of PDF books in general, and a PDF of older material in particular. It might still happen some day, but it's understandably a low priority for DOJ when they're deciding how best to allocate their limited resources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Re: Strike Force What I always find strange it that so many people say they liked/loved Strike Force but DoJ refused to emulate such a popular product and publish a similar style of book for the CU. You'd think DOJ would want to go where the money is. Well, part of the unique appeal of Strike Force was that it included background and events from Aaron Allston's actual campaign, showing how developments in the game were affected by events in real life, and the lessons that Aaron as GM learned from those developments. Besides giving us a peek behind the curtain of a well-run Champs campaign, I found that his excellent tips on running a game seemed so much clearer when given the context of how he discovered them. Some factors which are different now may have affected DOJ's approach to their current Champs publications. For one thing, much of the official Champions Universe is apparently drawn from Darren Watts's own campaign. They may have thought that producing a "behind the scenes" book based on his campaign would be both too similar to and too different from what's already been published; and they're hesitant about putting resources into supporting another game world. For another, much of Aaron's gaming advice from Strike Force has been so widely disseminated in the RPG community that it's been worked into many books from many publishers in some form - the originality of it couldn't be duplicated today. IMO Strike Force also had that indefinable magic of various elements that come together just right. Magic is hard to replicate on demand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCMaenza Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Re: Strike Force I agree totally with your last statement. Strike Force came out at a time when a lot of us could really use the pointers to turn our occasional games into long running campaigns. A lot of the info therein is pretty much GMing 101 now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BNakagawa Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Re: Strike Force also, good luck getting Dennis Loubet to work on a replacement... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylwin13 Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Re: Strike Force also' date=' good luck getting Dennis Loubet to work on a replacement...[/quote']because...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Re: Strike Force also' date=' good luck getting Dennis Loubet to work on a replacement...[/quote'] because...? Yeah, Inquiring minds want to gossip...er, know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBikle Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Re: Strike Force I've got the original' date=' but I wonder if Aaron Allston has ever considered allowing them to scan it into PDF form, and allowing someone one to sell the down loads.[/quote'] I've suggested this before. I don't get why this can't/won't be done. Seems like it'd be easy money for Hero and Allston and would serve as a good barometer to see if there's sufficient interest in a 5E update of the book. Granted, Strike Force was full of house rules (there was a martial arts style that allowed you to abort to a strike !), but just have a disclaimer that the PDF is being released more for "historical value". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BNakagawa Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Re: Strike Force I don't know anything you don't. It's just that he hasn't been in the practice of doing RPG artwork lately... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 Re: Strike Force I don't know anything you don't. It's just that he hasn't been in the practice of doing RPG artwork lately... What, is he too good for us now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 Re: Strike Force What' date=' is he too good for us now? [/quote'] Have you seen the kind of riffraff we get around here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylwin13 Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 Re: Strike Force Have you seen the kind of riffraff we get around here? Yeah, but that's OK; since he always brings Columbia and Magenta with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BNakagawa Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 Re: Strike Force What' date=' is he too good for us now? [/quote'] seems that way. hard to get good artists these days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 Re: Strike Force Loubet does 3d character animation for video games nowadays. I believe he's done some playstation titles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtue Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 Re: Strike Force Does Anyone still have a site i can buy strike force from i cant find one on EBAY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJackBrass Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 Re: Strike Force There's a copy listed at http://www.abebooks.com at the moment, but sit down before you look at the price... Abebooks is a good place to keep an eye on, actually, and you can sign up for a watch list, so they e-mail you when a copy is listed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinDangaioh Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 Re: Strike Force Strike Force? I wound up with two copies of the book. The first one was in a 1/2 price bin and I snatched it up. A Grab Bag of Hero books is how I got my second book. I was hoping for the Colorios Effect or The Blood and Dr. McQuark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 Re: Strike Force Yeah, there's two I'm missing and wishing I'd picked them up when I first saw them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylwin13 Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 Re: Strike Force Strike Force? I wound up with two copies of the book. The first one was in a 1/2 price bin and I snatched it up. A Grab Bag of Hero books is how I got my second book. I was hoping for the Colorios Effect or The Blood and Dr. McQuark. Nice. EBay one of the SF's (for money to spend on more HERO goodies) and definitely hang on to the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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