TheQuestionMan Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 Victorian Women's Art of Self Defense http://www.geh.org/ar/strip43/htmlsrc/vanderweyde_sld00034.html Cute QM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkdguy Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Re: Victorian Women's Art of Self Defense Fencing and jujutsu. Damn, those Victorians were violent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CourtFool Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Marry early. Marry well. Cat fight! Cat fight! Er...I mean...odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labrat Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Re: Marry early. Marry well. Cat fight! Cat fight! Er...I mean...odd. They could perform a few sweep maneuvers with those high falutin' hoop dresses of theirs... and I think parasole (sp?) fighting would be something that I would want to see. I won't even mention how much combat protection those camasoles and girdles would give... Forgive me if I'm stereotyping or completely out of reference. My 'Victorian' knowledge is largely dictated by Hollywood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CourtFool Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 llama = the new geek High Falutin' Hoop Dress: Armor (1 PD / 1 ED) (3 Active Points) OIF (Fragile, -¾), Locations 14-18 Only (-1), Real Armor (-¼), Double Mass (-1¼) (1 Real Point) plus Damage Resistance (2 PD / 0 ED) (1 Active Point) OIF (Fragile, -¾), Locations 14-18 Only (-1), Real Armor (-¼), Double Mass (-1¼) (1 Real Point) (2 Total Real Points) Girdle: (1 PD / 1 ED) (3 Active Points) OIF (Fragile, -¾), Locations 12 & 13 Only (-2), Real Armor (-¼), Half Mass (-½) (1 Real Point) Parasol-Fu Used with Parasol or Clubs; that Weapon Element is free. Maneuver Phs Pts OCV DCV Damage/Effect Parry ½ 4 +2 +2 Block, Abort Poke ½ 5 +1 +3 Weapon Swat ½ 5 -2 +1 Weapon+4 DC Strike Trip ½ 3 +2 -1 STR+1 DC Strike, Target Falls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labrat Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Re: llama = the new geek High Falutin' Hoop Dress: Armor (1 PD / 1 ED) (3 Active Points) OIF (Fragile' date=' -¾), Locations 14-18 Only (-1), Real Armor (-¼), Double Mass (-1¼) (1 Real Point) [b']plus[/b] Damage Resistance (2 PD / 0 ED) (1 Active Point) OIF (Fragile, -¾), Locations 14-18 Only (-1), Real Armor (-¼), Double Mass (-1¼) (1 Real Point) (2 Total Real Points) Girdle: (1 PD / 1 ED) (3 Active Points) OIF (Fragile, -¾), Locations 12 & 13 Only (-1), Real Armor (-¼), Half Mass (-½) (1 Real Point) Parasol-Fu Used with Parasol or Clubs; that Weapon Element is free. Maneuver Phs Pts OCV DCV Damage/Effect Parry ½ 4 +2 +2 Block, Abort Poke ½ 5 +1 +3 Weapon Swat ½ 5 -2 +1 Weapon+4 DC Strike Trip ½ 3 +2 -1 STR+1 DC Strike, Target Falls Me likey! There would be an "LS: Limited need to breathe" attached to the Female Victorian package deal due to that girdle. Also a huge running penalty, let alone any kicking maneuvers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Obvious Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Re: Victorian Women's Art of Self Defense But the girdle doesn't give them the ability to hold their breath for long periods. What it actually does is reduces their END and REC to the point where they are prone to fainting fits (ie, using up all their STUN). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labrat Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Re: Victorian Women's Art of Self Defense But the girdle doesn't give them the ability to hold their breath for long periods. What it actually does is reduces their END and REC to the point where they are prone to fainting fits (ie' date=' using up all their STUN).[/quote'] I was speaking of the LS as more of a requirement and not a built in ability... thus I put it in a Package Deal. The guys would need a lockpicking skill as a complimentary skill to seduction. Heh heh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Re: Victorian Women's Art of Self Defense When I saw the thread title, I assumed it would be something along the lines of "Lie back, and think of England" as mother advised their daughters with regard to their wedding night. Nice to see I was wrong. The favored weapon of the genteel Victorian woman was a foot long hairpin, used everyday to hold up those outrageously complex Victorian hairstyles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemming Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Re: Victorian Women's Art of Self Defense The favored weapon of the genteel Victorian woman was a foot long hairpin' date=' used everyday to hold up those outrageously complex Victorian hairstyles. [/quote'] That was taught as sex education in the 40s as well. (Well, at a certain Catholic Boarding school in Canada). Sex Ed: Use a hairpin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlHazred Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 Re: Victorian Women's Art of Self Defense The reason the Victorian women burn STUN and END and then pass out is obviously due to the Double Mass limitation on the Hoop Dress. I recommend you try making them out of mithril. CourtFool, you should write it up and submit it to Dave Mattingly for next year's April edition of Digital Hero! Girdle: (1 PD / 1 ED) (3 Active Points) OIF (Fragile' date=' -¾), Locations 12 & 13 Only (-1), Real Armor (-¼), Half Mass (-½) (1 Real Point)[/quote'] Just FYI, the Locations 12 & 13 Only limitation would be worth -2. This should bring the cost down to 1 Real Point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 Re: Victorian Women's Art of Self Defense Let me think... ...What powers would a damsel's tightly coiled sausage curl hair style have? You never acualy see it get dirty, the curls always keep there style and shape, the curls never go "out of place" unless the damsel is sturgling with there bonds. I know I would give a damsel a Mind Control, One Comand ("Help, Help, Save Me!"), Telepathic, with Gesters (Eyelash Flutter and Shaked Head Full Of Sausage Curls), but beyond that...any sergestions? Note: Note that I did not put in Incantations, othoe the damsel will proably be screaming at the top of her lungs...or as loud as she can considering that there is a cloth gag in her mouth (usaly). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CourtFool Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 Re: Victorian Women's Art of Self Defense You could always add Side Effects: END/STUN Drain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markdoc Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Re: Victorian Women's Art of Self Defense That was taught as sex education in the 40s as well. (Well, at a certain Catholic Boarding school in Canada). Sex Ed: Use a hairpin Actually I have seen in museums a number of teeny, tiny .22 cal pistols from victorian times. They are one shot and have no muzzle or grip to speak of. Very pretty though - all enamelled and decorated in gold and silver. When I commented to my dad that you'd have difficulty hitting anyone with them, he pointed out that they were women's pistols: if you needed to use it, your attacker would be close enough that you could just stick the muzzle in his ear. Cheers, Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CourtFool Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Yeah, but... When I commented to my dad that you'd have difficulty hitting anyone with them' date=' he pointed out that they were women's pistols: if you needed to use it, your attacker would be close enough that you could just stick the muzzle in his ear.[/quote'] [sARCASM] Yes, but isn't the ear a -8 to hit? [/sARCASM] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legendsmiths Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Re: Yeah, but... [sarcasm] Yes, but when the target is surprised hit location is halved, when immobilized/sitting non-combat he is at DCV 0 or at best half DCV, obviously the set maneuver would be in play for a +1, and an additional +2 OCV if you allow the Point Blank bonus from DC. That nets you a total +3 vs. a hampered DCV and -4 for called shot). Not too diffy for a lady with 4-5 OCV. [/sarcasm] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markdoc Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Re: Yeah, but... [sARCASM] Yes' date=' but isn't the ear a -8 to hit? [/sARCASM'] Well at that point you are - ahem - out of combat, so your target is DCV 0 and the penalty to hit the head is only -4. The GM might also give you a surprise modifier cheers,Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Re: Victorian Women's Art of Self Defense Humm...talking about self defence for victorian women got me thinking... How would you interprate the martial art "situation" weapions elements "Use Art While Prone" and "Use Art While Bound"? I was thinking of a martial art style originaly taught to women of the lower class (read "soiled doves"), and then eventuly taught to women in the middel and higher classes. As for the name...what is the french word for "Catapiler" (I know Papolon is Buterfly in french, but that is the end result). I got the manuvers writen up (othoe I should give it more manuvers...so far I only gave five). One is a wigeling block. Another is a wigling dodge. The third is using wigling motions to slip from someone's grasp. The fourth is a "grab" by biteing someone. The fifth is a sort of acrobatic kick which unforcently leaves the user prone. What other manuvers can I give to this art? A "legsweep"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CourtFool Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 Re: Victorian Women's Art of Self Defense Actually, I would buy Penalty Skill Levels vs. Being Prone and Being Bound. Then just buy standard maneuvers...maybe from Cinematic Brawling/Fisticuffs if any at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Rose Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 Re: Victorian Women's Art of Self Defense Actually I have seen in museums a number of teeny, tiny .22 cal pistols from victorian times. They are one shot and have no muzzle or grip to speak of. Very pretty though - all enamelled and decorated in gold and silver. When I commented to my dad that you'd have difficulty hitting anyone with them, he pointed out that they were women's pistols: if you needed to use it, your attacker would be close enough that you could just stick the muzzle in his ear. Cheers, Mark See, and here I was thinking you'd press it against the guy's torso. Am I the only one here with a at the thought of some villianous cad attempting to have his way with a "poor helpless Young Maiden", only to have his grey matter smeared across the drawing room wall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkdguy Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 Re: Victorian Women's Art of Self Defense Also, can you use Sevillian Knife Fighting maneuvers with hairpins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 Re: Victorian Women's Art of Self Defense Now, because you did not ask for it, is the martial art named Silkworm. Silkworm Use Art Bairhanded; Bairhanded Weapion Element is Free. Manuver Name Phs. Pts. OCV. DCV. Notes Silkworm Bite 1/2 3 -2 -2 Grab One Limb, 1DC Killing Strike, +10 STR to Hold On Silkworm Block 1/2 5 +1 +3 Block, Abort Silkworm Dodge 1/2 4 - +5 Dodge, Affects All Attacks, Abort Silkworm Escape Var 4 +0 +0 +15 STR VS Grabs Silkworm Head Strike 1/2 3 +2 +0 STR+2d6 Strike, Take Half Damage Silkworm Rolling Strike 1/2 3 +0 +0 STR+v/5 Strike, Oponent Falls, FMove, Must Be Pron To Use (note: vareation of Follow) Silkworm Tail Strike 1/2 5 -1 +0 STR+4d6 Strike, Oponent Falls, You Fall Elements: Situation: +1 Use Art While Bound (Manuver Penatlies Are Not Added In Till After Reduction From The Situation) +1 Use Art While Prone (Manuver Penatlies Are Not Added In Till After Reduction From The Situation) Skills: * Penatily Skill Levels (Bound) * Penatily Skill Levels (Prone) * Acrobatics * Breakfall KS: Silkworm Martial Arts High Society Seduction History: Nobody truly knows where this martial art comes from. Many scolors of fighting styles beleved the style originated with the contesesn of France (where it was called Ver A Sole), or Spain (where it was called Gusano De Seda). Others beleved it was brought to Europe by the Chinies. All agree that the martial arts style was originaly created by women as a way to learn how to fight back when there hands are bound in back and legs are bound together. In fact, the style gets it's name from the bound damsel's resemblence to a silkworm or catapiler. This style originaly was taught only to women of low breading (who, some would say, would be more likely to be bound), but eventuly the popularity increses enougth that some women from the higher breadings learned it also. It is still a rair martial art style. And there are no known male users of this art (as we know of). Special Notes: Silkworm Bite is a deep bite usaly to the hands. Women of high breading most sertenly do not admit thay know this manuver. There is no bonus for location. Silkworm Head Strike is a headbut, plain and simple. Again, it is another manuver women of higher breading will not admit thay know. There is a bonus for location (which is 2d6+1, or depends on the target's position). Silken Rolling Strike is a roll from a prone position designed to sweep the target off there feat. This manuver can only be used from a prone position. The final damage (the fall) is considered generic full body damage, and it automatly hits the legs. Silkworm Block, Dodge, and Escape usaly are dependent on motion to use. If the user is considered totaly imoble, then thay can not use the manuvers. Note that totaly imoble means more bound then simply tied to a pole or chair. The rule of thumb is, if the target can still strugle and be in motion, thay are considered to have enougth motion to use theas manuvers (which is great with Silkworm Escape, which can save the damsel from unwanted groaping). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 Re: Victorian Women's Art of Self Defense Also' date=' can you use Sevillian Knife Fighting maneuvers with hairpins?[/quote'] I don't see why not...pins are considered "blades", thay just imapil instead of slash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markdoc Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Re: Victorian Women's Art of Self Defense See' date=' and here I was thinking you'd press it against the guy's torso. Am I the only one here with a at the thought of some villianous cad attempting to have his way with a "poor helpless Young Maiden", only to have his grey matter smeared across the drawing room wall?[/quote'] Yes, well, it'd certainly give you something to talk about at the next bridge party. "Oh, Emily you've had the wallpaper done! It looks lovely." "Well, we just had to, you know. You remember Reginald, the Emerson's youngest?...." cheers, Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuestionMan Posted April 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Re: Victorian Women's Art of Self Defense Belated April Fool's Joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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