Guyon Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 I wanted a friendly NPC to get premonitions from time to time, that may help the team. I don't want to use danger sense, as this will most likely be out of combat. They will get hunches and glimpse near future occurrences. I want them to be vague and in rare cases dreams. Any Suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altamaros Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 Re: Premonition? I wanted a friendly NPC to get premonitions from time to time, that may help the team. I don't want to use danger sense, as this will most likely be out of combat. They will get hunches and glimpse near future occurrences. I want them to be vague and in rare cases dreams. Any Suggestions? Claisentience * base sense group is sight group (20pts), * hearing group (+10pts) * precognitive (+20pts) + 0 END: +1/2 - no conscious control (-2) - vague and unclear (-1/2) Base points : 50 pts Active points : 75 pts Total points : 21 pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyon Posted April 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 Re: Premonition? Thanks, That is exactly what I was looking for. though it would have been interesting if you answer the question before I asked it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Serpent Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 Re: Premonition? Plot Device: O pts. Assigned to NPC, and will not directly affect a PC (ie attack, etc.), no need to write up/stat out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Waters Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 Re: Premonition? Try the disadvantage 'Weirdness Magnet'. Sorry. That wasn't actually meant for this post: you haven't asked the question it refers to yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dust Raven Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 Re: Premonition? Claisentience * base sense group is sight group (20pts), * hearing group (+10pts) * precognitive (+20pts) + 0 END: +1/2 - no conscious control (-2) - vague and unclear (-1/2) Base points : 50 pts Active points : 75 pts Total points : 21 pts If he can only sense the future and not the present, you can also include Precog Only (-1/2) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prestidigitator Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 Re: Premonition? When I am really making it just GM candy so that I can give a character premonition when and how I want, I tend to forget the Advantages and extra senses. So I would just make it: Claisentience: (~Sight Group); +Precognitive [40 Active] No Conscious Control (-2); Vague and Unclear (-1/2); Precognition Only (-1/2); [10 Real] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dust Raven Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 Re: Premonition? I wanted a friendly NPC to get premonitions from time to time, that may help the team. I don't want to use danger sense, as this will most likely be out of combat. They will get hunches and glimpse near future occurrences. I want them to be vague and in rare cases dreams. Any Suggestions? I just had a wacked out thought.... Contact: GM 8- (Extremely Useful, Good Relationship) Actually, the more I think of it, if this is just a plot device kind of thing I'd just write it off as part of the character's concept. If this was the only power the character had however, I might write up the above just to justify it happening to the character (and giving a game mechanic that can be intereacted with). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prestidigitator Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 Re: Premonition? I just had a wacked out thought.... Contact: GM 8- (Extremely Useful, Good Relationship) Actually, the more I think of it, if this is just a plot device kind of thing I'd just write it off as part of the character's concept. If this was the only power the character had however, I might write up the above just to justify it happening to the character (and giving a game mechanic that can be intereacted with). Good idea. I'd rep you if I could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx! Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Re: Premonition? I just had a wacked out thought.... Contact: GM 8- (Extremely Useful, Good Relationship) Actually, the more I think of it, if this is just a plot device kind of thing I'd just write it off as part of the character's concept. If this was the only power the character had however, I might write up the above just to justify it happening to the character (and giving a game mechanic that can be intereacted with). Dust Raven! Excellent idea! I want to give reputation, but I'm still waiting to give reputation for the Turning To Stone thread. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjcurrie Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Re: Premonition? Given that the only real point to premonitions would be to give the character information that the group would not normally get in any other way, I would say it should be bought as a Power unless you're going to make sure that every other player in the group also gets some kind of free ability to make things balance things out. I say this because I certainly know players who would complain about the imbalance of giving one player a free ability. I'd use the Clairsentience method, incidentally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CourtFool Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 llama = the new Detect junkie This being Hero... Detect Relevant Information (10 Active Points); Concentration (½ DCV, -¼), Extra Time (1 Turn, -1¼), No Conscious Control (-2), Vague and Unclear (-½) (2 Real Points) More questionable builds from the stand point that the effect is the PCs gain information: Aid: 4d6 to Knowledge Skills, Invisible Power Effects (Sight, +½), Ranged (+¼), Variable Effect (Any Knowledge Skill One At A Time, +¼) (80 Active Points); Concentration (½ DCV, -¼), Extra Time (1 Turn, -1¼), No Conscious Control (-2) (18 Real Points) KS: Future Events 11- (3 Active Points) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altamaros Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Re: llama = the new Detect junkie This being Hero... Detect Relevant Information (10 Active Points); Concentration (½ DCV, -¼), Extra Time (1 Turn, -1¼), No Conscious Control (-2), Vague and Unclear (-½) (2 Real Points) ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CourtFool Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Re: Premonition? Information that pertains or is related to situation but is not detailed or conclusive. Do you think the two are mutually exclusive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prestidigitator Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Re: llama = the new Detect junkie This being Hero... Detect Relevant Information (10 Active Points); Concentration (½ DCV, -¼), Extra Time (1 Turn, -1¼), No Conscious Control (-2), Vague and Unclear (-½) (2 Real Points) More questionable builds from the stand point that the effect is the PCs gain information: Aid: 4d6 to Knowledge Skills, Invisible Power Effects (Sight, +½), Ranged (+¼), Variable Effect (Any Knowledge Skill One At A Time, +¼) (80 Active Points); Concentration (½ DCV, -¼), Extra Time (1 Turn, -1¼), No Conscious Control (-2) (18 Real Points) KS: Future Events 11- (3 Active Points) Dude! Are you sure you aren't a donkey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dust Raven Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Re: Premonition? Given that the only real point to premonitions would be to give the character information that the group would not normally get in any other way, I would say it should be bought as a Power unless you're going to make sure that every other player in the group also gets some kind of free ability to make things balance things out. I say this because I certainly know players who would complain about the imbalance of giving one player a free ability. I'd use the Clairsentience method, incidentally. The way I see it, what's the difference between the GM feeding the players/characters info through the TV, a crazed woman running up to them on the street, a call from some important person and just having it pop into their heads? The the characters can't actually use it to gain information themselves (which they could with those other sources), why should it cost points? Pop into their heads could be a sudden clairvoyant premonition, a precognative dream or even just a hunch the GM gives the character to spark the advanture or move it along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prestidigitator Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Re: Premonition? The way I see it' date=' what's the difference between the GM feeding the players/characters info through the TV, a crazed woman running up to them on the street, a call from some important person and just having it pop into their heads? The the characters can't actually use it to gain information themselves (which they could with those other sources), why should it cost points? Pop into their heads could be a sudden clairvoyant premonition, a precognative dream or even just a hunch the GM gives the character to spark the advanture or move it along.[/quote'] Hah! Good point. Besides, maybe it isn't the PC that has the Power at all, but a benevolent (or not, depending on how you look at it) NPC sitting on a rock somewhere with a huge Mind Scan and Telepathy or Mental Illusions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CourtFool Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 llama = the new Detect junkie Dude! Are you sure you aren't a donkey? Are you calling me an equine?! Why I aughta... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjcurrie Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 Re: Premonition? Hah! Good point. Besides' date=' maybe it isn't the PC that has the Power at all, but a benevolent (or not, depending on how you look at it) NPC sitting on a rock somewhere with a huge Mind Scan and Telepathy or Mental Illusions. [/quote'] Well, of course, then it's not the character's power and probably should not be part of his concept. If it is a part of his character's concept, then it sounds like it should be a follower or a contact. Of course, in my mind, actually buying the ability more or less forces the GM to actually use it from time to time, as opposed to simply writing it off as something that doesn't happen anymore. But, as it was discussed earlier, it's a lousy 10 points -- about 4 or 5 sessions worth of XP. And, in general, I just feel more comfortable with it being purchased. It's also not a power that I see as being just a sideline for a character -- usually, it seems to be a major part of the schtick for fictional characters who have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dust Raven Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 Re: Premonition? Hah! Good point. Besides' date=' maybe it isn't the PC that has the Power at all, but a benevolent (or not, depending on how you look at it) NPC sitting on a rock somewhere with a huge Mind Scan and Telepathy or Mental Illusions. [/quote'] That's true, this was for an NPC wasn't it... No need to cost it out at all then unless it's for a Follower... Ah, "friendly NPC" it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prestidigitator Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 Re: llama = the new Detect junkie Dude! Are you sure you aren't a donkey? Are you calling me an equine?! Why I aughta... Ah, no, actually. I was calling you something else entirely.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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