L. Marcus Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Re: The Last Word Speaking of evil' date=' immoral things, I need to start whomping up the exam I'm giving next Monday.[/quote'] What is it?! What is it about?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Re: The Last Word Fluids, oscillators, waves, and sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceTheOwl Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Re: The Last Word Re: Politicians -- our government (a liberal-conservative coalition) came to power by a number of promises. They have fulfilled most of those promises -- and are therefore being burned in the polls. It's not easy, being an honest politician. It's not, because then all the crooks jump all over you to find SOMETHING. Inexperience, usually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Re: The Last Word And if they can't find anything else, they'll make stuff up and repeat it often, See "Swift Boating". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Re: The Last Word It's not, because then all the crooks jump all over you to find SOMETHING. Inexperience, usually. Yars, the Social Democrats have been in power since the end of WWII, with only three times in opposition (this time being the third). So the other parties hasn't had that much actual practice in running a country -- and then getting re-elected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Re: The Last Word And if they can't find anything else' date=' they'll make stuff up and repeat it often, See "Swift Boating".[/quote']One of the things I'm glad about our political system is the parties. It leaves much less room for personal attacks that, say, in the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Re: The Last Word One of the things I'm glad about our political system is the parties. See, there's the difference. In Sweden everyone goes to parties. Here in the US, we only get rich farts BSing at each other and us. Ptui. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Re: The Last Word . . . Well, our politicians aren't always straight with the electorate, but I have the feeling that what they say they want accomplished, they actually try to accomplish. Then there is, of course, the matter of priorities and horse trade to get things actually done . . . And the occasional raising of their own salaries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceTheOwl Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Re: The Last Word It doesn't really lend itself to individualism in politics, though, does it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Re: The Last Word Fluids' date=' oscillators, waves, and sound.[/quote'] sounds like fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Re: The Last Word And if they can't find anything else' date=' they'll make stuff up and repeat it often, See "Swift Boating".[/quote'] Unemployment, economy, sorry can't give you tax cuts this time 'round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Re: The Last Word Rep Power: 6160 Na I 6160.753A is one of a very small number of neutral sodium lines that can be used for deriving an abundance of this element in solar-type and cooler stars. The D lines (5889, 5895 A) are immensely strong (they are the spectral lines that give flames in nearly all sources their strong orange color), meaning that most of the abundance information in the spectral line is submerged in favor of line-damping processes that tell you more about the thermal structure of the stellar atmosphere rather than the abundance of sodium. So the weak lines at 6154 and 6160 A are among the better choices remaining, although the former has a weak but annoying Cr I line blending with it that compromises its utility somewhat. The abundance of sodium, it is found, turns out to vary in the red giants of globular clusters much like the CNO nuclides do, with some stars having elevated sodium and nitrogen abundances and lowered oxygen abundances relative to most of the others. It is well known (Hans Bethe won the Nobel Prize in physics for realizing this) that oxygen participates in the CNO cycle, which results in it being converted to nitrogen. Standard stellar structure models don't predict the mixing of such fully CNO-cycled material to the stellar surface, but it seems to happen in some stars. That sodium participates also was something of a surprise, and the only reaction cycle that works is with the isotopes of neon being cycled to sodium, which again is not predicted to be mixed to the surface of globular cluster giants, but it clearly must happen. Details of the mixing process are hard to work out, given that it's hydrodynamics in a nasty, turbulent regime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceTheOwl Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Re: The Last Word You have one of those for every possible rep power, don't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Re: The Last Word mostly, I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceTheOwl Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Re: The Last Word Yeah? Name one number he doesn't have one for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Re: The Last Word I'm sure he said something like that on this very thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceTheOwl Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Re: The Last Word Yeah? Quote it, and maybe I'll believe you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Re: The Last Word Can't at the moment. About to sign off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceTheOwl Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Re: The Last Word A likely story . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Re: The Last Word no really. I have to finish watching 1/2 hour of Charlotte Grey, have morning tea, then get ready to go to work inc making lunch with less than 1 hour to do it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemming Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Re: The Last Word We have someone at work who my coworker asked me if she had ADD. "Drop off the Attention part and you might have it." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Re: The Last Word You have one of those for every possible rep power' date=' don't you?[/quote'] No. When one hits an interesting spectral line ... and for me, those are going to be between 4000 and about 8800, plus a couple of stray outliers ... I'll succumb to temptation and wax didactic. This one, about the sodium line, was a happy coincidence, because (1) there really are only 4 good sodium lines, and this one is by far the best, (2) the sodium stuff in globular clusters is a little odd, and (3) because last spring I got to referee a paper bearing on the problem. EDIT: Once we get to 5- and 6-digit numbers an entirely new set of associations, with HD numbers. But that's a long way off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceTheOwl Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Re: The Last Word We have someone at work who my coworker asked me if she had ADD. "Drop off the Attention part and you might have it." Huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Re: The Last Word She's overspending and she knows it, is my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceTheOwl Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Re: The Last Word Oh. Well, isn't everyone, these days? It's either the cause or an effect of the upcoming recession; I forget which. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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