L. Marcus Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 Well, yeah. It's got us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rails Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 He said "conscious", not "insane"--although those definitely aren't mutually exclusive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 Something that hasn't been around long enough to talk with itself even once is difficult to call "conscious". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted July 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 "G'd, the supreme being, is neither circumscribed by space, nor touched by time; he cannot be found in a particular direction, and his essence cannot change. The secret conversation is thus entirely spiritual; it is a direct encounter between G'd and the soul, abstracted from all material constraints." ~ Avicenna. 980-1037.A.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 Yes ... which is why I stay away from trying to put physical limits on the Divine. You used the word "Universe", which is a physical thing and obeys physical laws. That's different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted July 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 So what is "cosmos" then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rails Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 Drinks? Cancer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 So what is "cosmos" then? What does it mean to you, in this context? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted July 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 A synonym for universe, an orderly system of the macroverse, man being a microverse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 What does it mean to you, in this context? I'll take the easy out and go with Dr. Sagan's definition: Everything that is, or ever was, or ever will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 Though Sagan restricted his discussion to features and phenomena that we observe. He would stop far short of claiming a consciousness for the Universe, exactly for the reason I mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted July 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 Why is the Universe restricted to a physical thing? (Honest question). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 My answer would be: Because we don't know how to measure and/or quantify the other things. (Yet.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 Also, what actual phenomena have you observed that leads to think it might be; or, does a working physical theory for some other system suggest that the universe behave in that way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted July 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted July 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 Typical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted July 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 Does he work for Big Pharma? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted July 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2017 China Shatters “Spooky Action at a Distance” Record, Preps for Quantum Internet Results from the Micius satellite test quantum entanglement, pointing the way toward hack-proof global communications—and a new space race https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/china-shatters-ldquo-spooky-action-at-a-distance-rdquo-record-preps-for-quantum-internet/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted July 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Yay. Hawks win again. We still have a chance to make the finals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Sport? Team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 No -- survival. The last raptor species to procreate wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted July 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Yep. AFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 OK. From a couple of years of casual watching of a few AFL games 15-20 years ago I know a couple of team names, but no more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 Hawthorne? That's way the heck on the other side of the continent, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted July 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 Hawthorn, no e. Suburb of Melbourne, capital of Victoria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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