AliceTheOwl Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Re: The Last Word That would be it, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Re: The Last Word Yay! Owel Approval! *happydance* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Re: The Last Word Grading exams is a drag. A direct insight into your ineffectiveness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Re: The Last Word "Power" could be a pure psychosocial construct . . . not that kind of power... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Re: The Last Word If two people with lots of power don't get along, you should see sparks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Re: The Last Word isn't energy, power? can you not measure power with physics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Re: The Last Word Power in physics is use of energy over time: P = W/t (unit is Watt (W), or Joules per second (J/s)). Power in the psychosocial context is the ability to get other people to do what you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Re: The Last Word Power in physics is use of energy over time: P = W/t (unit is Watt (W), or Joules per second (J/s)). Power in the psychosocial context is the ability to get other people to do what you want. here is Cancer's post: Well' date=' I wouldn't actually call taking a physics exam a "power trip".[/quote'] and energy is E = mc^2. Ergo (or Ego) a physics exam is: Energy for exam = memorization of facts X cheating ^2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceTheOwl Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Re: The Last Word Cheating has nothing to do with it! I shouldn't be so proud to say that I've never cheated on an exam, nor a paper. Can't say I haven't been tempted, but it seemed like more work than just showing up to class, paying attention, taking notes, and reading the text. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Re: The Last Word As I once said (though its not attributed to me), "Most professors think burning at the stake is too lenient a punishment for cheating, but they'll go along with it anyway because it's cheap and convenient." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceTheOwl Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Re: The Last Word I have no argument with that. People who get away with cheating are the people who, later in life, fob off all their work onto others, slack on group projects, get promoted for doing nothing, and generally drag down productivity. Nip it in the bud, I say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Re: The Last Word From http://www.ithadtobeyou.net/carpe/archives/2003_02.html, and you have to scroll down to "Advice for Undergraduates".... Part 4 - Cheating #1. Don't EXPECT to be able to cheat. #2. You may feel that it is your right or even your duty to cheat on multiple choice exams. Professors don't share this sentiment. #3. Don't write cheat notes on anything that can be easily identified as belonging to you, such as a favorite baseball cap. You can't write enough on there to make it worth the risk anyway. #4. If you secretly copy some notes onto a desk for the purposes of cheating, make sure to do it in erasable pencil, and don't forget to erase it after you get up to turn in the exam. Since professors who have fallen victim to this will typically perform a "desk check" prior to exams, you'll probably either be caught or too stressed to concentrate anyway. #5. Most professors think that burning at the stake is too lenient a punishment for cheating, but they'll go along with it anyway because it is cheap and convenient. #6. If you've cheated at some point during the semester and your parents don't know about it, be sure to avoid any kind of formal grade appeal situation in that class. It is certain to be the first thing brought to the attention of your parents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceTheOwl Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Re: The Last Word Quite. Only undergrads, though? What, do grad students have different rules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Re: The Last Word In my field, grad school -- after the first year or two -- really is more like an apprenticeship than a specific curriculum. You hitch up with an adviser who makes sure your background is adequate for what you want to do, and then sees to it that you have the (intellectual) tools and raw ability to succeed. Cheating in grad school is more of a personal betrayal than just cheetin' in skool. Not saying it never happens, but it's a different sort of thing IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceTheOwl Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Re: The Last Word Sounds like a whole other kettle of fish. Good to know. I'm still looking into the possibility of a Master's in Library Science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemming Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Re: The Last Word I never cheated in college, though one professor had the exact same routine every semester, so everyone knew what to expect. He was also the one who wanted to throw me out of college for cheating. Turns out if one person is taking the class and another is auditing the class, they better not have the same name. He never apologized for it though he did say I could come back to class. 25 years later and it still bugs me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceTheOwl Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Re: The Last Word Understandably. I've been quite rankled, the few times I've been falsely accused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Re: The Last Word one poor joke about equating the speed of light with cheating and I get this? w-o-w. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Re: The Last Word Hey, at least we aren't settin' up to do the Joan of Arc thing to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Re: The Last Word what do you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceTheOwl Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Re: The Last Word one poor joke about equating the speed of light with cheating and I get this? w-o-w. Enlighten me? Or, maybe not. If I've forgotten, you're probably better off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemming Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Re: The Last Word Hey' date=' at least we aren't settin' up to do the Joan of Arc thing to you. [/quote'] So now what am I supposed to do with the stake and pile of firewood? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Re: The Last Word Enlighten me? Or, maybe not. If I've forgotten, you're probably better off. Ok then, I'll keep you in the dark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Re: The Last Word So now what am I supposed to do with the stake and pile of firewood? Burning man? ok forget I said that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceTheOwl Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Re: The Last Word Burning man? Do we have a volunteer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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