archermoo Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 Re: The cranky thread Ha! Where were you 2 months ago when I was saying the same thing, and everybody looked at me like I'd sprouted another head? Quicktime's always behaved that way for me. I usually run the uninstall, then go in and delete the components from the Program Files. Sorry, I must've missed it. I'll normally fully support anyone who has anything bad to say about Quicktime. We hates it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemming Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 Re: The cranky thread Safeways are in general a lost cause. Near as I can tell at least the ones in CA don't carry Code Red Mt. Dew. B@stards... I used to have good luck with them. I went to a different one than the one Zornwil gets tortured by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceTheOwl Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 Re: The cranky thread Sorry' date=' I must've missed it. I'll normally fully support anyone who has anything bad to say about Quicktime. We hates it...[/quote'] "We," indeed. I'd be quite happy if all the movie trailer links had choices other than Quicktime. As it is, I just grumble under my breath about it and figure the people commenting know what they're talking about. If the trailer's particularly good, Josh'll show it to me on his computer, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archermoo Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 Re: The cranky thread "We," indeed. I'd be quite happy if all the movie trailer links had choices other than Quicktime. As it is, I just grumble under my breath about it and figure the people commenting know what they're talking about. If the trailer's particularly good, Josh'll show it to me on his computer, anyway. Yeah, my bro a) installs quicktime, and will generally show me trailers he is interested in. Which are generally ones that I am also interested in. It helps that his computer is just a couple of feet from mine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 Re: The cranky thread I used to have good luck with them. I went to a different one than the one Zornwil gets tortured by. Zornwil, this Safeway isn't in downtown Portland by the Oregon Art Museum is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 Re: The cranky thread Why would you want to uninstall Quicktime.... Quicktime is your friend. Quicktime will comfort you in times of need. Obey Quicktime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archermoo Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 Re: The cranky thread Why would you want to uninstall Quicktime.... Quicktime is your friend. Quicktime will comfort you in times of need. Obey Quicktime. ghost-angel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 Re: The cranky thread QuickTime is the friend you need when Real & Microsoft screw you with locked down DMR. At least QT is based on open standards eg MPEG4 was developed from QuickTime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 Re: The cranky thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archermoo Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 Re: The cranky thread QuickTime is the friend you need when Real & Microsoft screw you with locked down DMR. At least QT is based on open standards eg MPEG4 was developed from QuickTime. If only it could be uninstalled, didn't require other unrelated software to be installed, and didn't cause instabilities on Windows systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zornwil Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 Re: The cranky thread Because Quicktime (at least for Windows) is a virus as near as I can tell. The only application that I've ever come across outside of actual "intended as malware" that has given me more problems is Real Player. I refuse to install either on any of my personal systems, and so miss out on a number of movie previews that partner with Apple to provide a Quicktime only preview. And these days as near as I can tell you can't even install Quicktime without also installing iTunes. Bleh. Totally with you. I hate them both for those exact reasons. And as you say, RP is the worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zornwil Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 Re: The cranky thread Zornwil' date=' this Safeway isn't in downtown Portland by the Oregon Art Museum is it?[/quote'] Nah - the one you reference used to be about as bad as mine, then they tore it down, rebuilt it (but not in the exact same spot), and successfully yuppified it with lots of cool stuff and friendly service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 Re: The cranky thread Nah - the one you reference used to be about as bad as mine' date=' then they tore it down, rebuilt it (but not in the exact same spot), and successfully yuppified it with lots of cool stuff and friendly service.[/quote'] Ah, when I went to PNCA which was at the time in the museum, I ate there every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 Re: The cranky thread Why would you want to uninstall Quicktime.... Quicktime is your friend. Quicktime will comfort you in times of need. Obey Quicktime. format C: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 Re: The cranky thread If only it could be uninstalled' date=' didn't require other unrelated software to be installed, and didn't cause instabilities on Windows systems.[/quote'] uninstalled -- 'Mostly' Apple is at fault here. I say mostly as Avie (2iC at Apple at the time of the antitrust trial) stated that MS worked code into Windoze to enable QT to behave badly (pr words to that effect) what "unrelated software" is installed? instabilities on Windows systems -- As stated above Windoze has code within specifically aimed at QT as testified in a court of law. I don't doubt that dor a moment. MS and its monopoly strikes again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemming Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 Re: The cranky thread Zornwil' date=' this Safeway isn't in downtown Portland by the Oregon Art Museum is it?[/quote'] I see the lizard has already answered, but I'll add. It's less scary now. I wonder what happened to some of the customers, it's like they got rebuilt as well or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zornwil Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 Re: The cranky thread I see the lizard has already answered' date=' but I'll add. It's less scary now. I wonder what happened to some of the customers, it's like they got rebuilt as well or something.[/quote'] Good question. Some gentrificaton has started in the area so some people have been kicked out, but the scary hotel is still right near there, between the Safeway and the Jefferson Theater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archermoo Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 Re: The cranky thread uninstalled -- 'Mostly' Apple is at fault here. I say mostly as Avie (2iC at Apple at the time of the antitrust trial) stated that MS worked code into Windoze to enable QT to behave badly (pr words to that effect) what "unrelated software" is installed? instabilities on Windows systems -- As stated above Windoze has code within specifically aimed at QT as testified in a court of law. I don't doubt that dor a moment. MS and its monopoly strikes again. Well, I doubt that Windows code has anything to do with the fact that the uninstall process for QT leaves running parts of the application in place on your computer, and leave a large amount of dross in the registry as well. That is just a poorly written uninstall. Whether it was poorly written on purpose or just due to incompetence is a different question. And the unrelated software that must be installed is iTunes. I have no need or desire to install Apple's music management/playing software to watch viedeos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 Re: The cranky thread format C: Reminds me my machine is about do for a Clean Install of the OS ... too many updates makes for bloat... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 Re: The cranky thread format C: Thought about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Re: The cranky thread And the unrelated software that must be installed is iTunes. I have no need or desire to install Apple's music management/playing software to watch viedeos. I can understand that, and why Apple did it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archermoo Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Re: The cranky thread I can understand that' date=' and why Apple did it that way.[/quote'] Oh I understand why Apple did it, at least the "you must install iTunes" part. Most people don't realize that they're installing anything extra, and probably wouldn't care if they did. And now Apple gets to count everyone who installs QT as also being an iTunes user so they can inflate their marketshare claims. But understanding it doesn't make me like it. And I'll continue to recommend to people that they not install QT, and explain why. And continue to recommend to companies that I work for that they not allow people to install QT on their work computers, since it causes support headaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Re: The cranky thread And now Apple gets to count everyone who installs QT as also being an iTunes user so they can inflate their marketshare claims. 14% as of a story yesterday -> http://playlistmag.com/news/2006/01/23/nielsen/index.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archermoo Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Re: The cranky thread 14% as of a story yesterday -> http://playlistmag.com/news/2006/01/23/nielsen/index.php And I wonder how much of that is due to the whole "You wanted Quicktime so we forced iTunes on you as well" thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Re: The cranky thread I liked iTunes, until recently, that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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