Redmenace Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 Guardians of Order have updated their website. Here's a link to the Authority sourcebook page for anyone interested. http://www.guardiansorder.com/games/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckB Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 Re: Authority supplement cover shot Probably pass on it. Authority,like the Wild Cards book series, doesn't really lend itself too well to RPGs. Plus the original writer of the series, Warren Ellis, has mentioned his disdain for RPGs and the people who play them (even though he wrote the forward for a White Wolf supplement.). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just A Guy Name Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 Re: Authority supplement cover shot I know I am eagerly awaiting it's release (mid-June, according to GoO's I-Cal), Warren can think whatever he wants, just like me:/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckB Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 Re: Authority supplement cover shot I hear ya , but his attitude (plus the fact that I don't play the game system or think the genre works for RPGs) makes it easier to pass on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 Re: Authority supplement cover shot I followed the Authority from Stormwatch so I'll probably get it. And I liked the Wild Card series as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 Re: Authority supplement cover shot I'm a heretic among comic fans in that I've never even read an issue. And I don't play that particular game because I've got shelf-loads of hero goodness. But the picture begs one question: In this universe is anyone allowed to be happy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Serpent Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 Re: Authority supplement cover shot I'm a heretic among comic fans in that I've never even read an issue. And I don't play that particular game because I've got shelf-loads of hero goodness. But the picture begs one question: In this universe is anyone allowed to be happy? They're only happy when it rains. I got partway through one issue, but couldn't finish it. Had pretty good art, but I felt it was a shame the artist was being wasted on it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rene Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 Re: Authority supplement cover shot Probably pass on it. Authority,like the Wild Cards book series, doesn't really lend itself too well to RPGs. Plus the original writer of the series, Warren Ellis, has mentioned his disdain for RPGs and the people who play them (even though he wrote the forward for a White Wolf supplement.). The Authority leaves me cold, even though I'm a fan of other stuff Ellis has written (such as Planetary). It's not that I necessarily dislike dark heroes, it's just that the series seems to be all action, no feeling. And I wouldn't take his statements so seriously, Ellis likes to be inflamatory, sometimes just to mantain his bad boy image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 Re: Authority supplement cover shot I read a TBP "Authority: Relentless" . It was not as bad as I feared it would be (And you can see my rants on 'killer' supers else where) but it still wasn't my cup of tea. I later heard that after Jenny Sparks died, the series went down hill so I'm glad "I came, I read, I decided to forgo". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaplayboy Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 Re: Authority supplement cover shot anybody know a good Tri-Stat to Hero conversion link? Ehhh...the "Earth Special Forces" from DBZ would stomp all of 'em except for the Doctor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 Re: Authority supplement cover shot Authority,like the Wild Cards book series, doesn't really lend itself too well to RPGs. Whoa now. I don't know much about Authority, but Wild Cards I know plenty about. WC makes a GREAT RPG setting. I have used it as such in both GURPS and Hero to good effect. Some of my best games ever were in the world of Wild Cards. I also introduced the WC virus into other settings (GURPS Fantasy world of Yrth, for instance). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rene Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 Re: Authority supplement cover shot Whoa now. I don't know much about Authority' date=' but Wild Cards I know plenty about. WC makes a GREAT RPG setting. I have used it as such in both GURPS and Hero to good effect. Some of my best games ever were in the world of Wild Cards. I also introduced the WC virus into other settings (GURPS Fantasy world of Yrth, for instance).[/quote'] Well, I'm maybe one of Wild Card's biggest fans you're ever going to meet, but I think I can see ChuckB's point. Wild Cards has two basic problems as a RPG setting, IMO. The first is that it's almost too realistic to allow for the supergroup thing. Things don't work like in a comic book, superheroes's relationships with each other are much more informal and natural. Second, most aces are one-trick ponies with devastating-but-narrow powers (Turtle, Demise, Popinjay, the Envoy...). Maybe realistic, but again harder to deal with in a game. But if you can make it work, that is amazing. BTW, are you running a PBEM Wild Cards campaign right now? I'd love to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckB Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 Re: Authority supplement cover shot Rene nailed it. For the record I like both Authority and Wild Cards. For a variety of reasons, I just don't think they work too well as RPG settings (unless you drastically changed the tone of your game , in which case it wouldn't accurately reflect either universe). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakboy6117 Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 Re: Authority supplement cover shot intreasting thing about the wildcard thing is it started out as a super hero roleplaying game played by the authors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckB Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 Re: Authority supplement cover shot Yep. In fact it was Chaosium's Super World using the RuneQuest game system which is actually very similar to Hero System. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devlin1 Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 Re: Authority supplement cover shot Yep. In fact it was Chaosium's Super World using the RuneQuest game system which is actually very similar to Hero System.Ah... I had SuperWorld, back in the day. It was part of Chaosium's Worlds of Wonder set: SuperWorld, MagicWorld, and FutureWorld. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earen Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 Re: Authority supplement cover shot Yep. In fact it was Chaosium's Super World using the RuneQuest game system which is actually very similar to Hero System. I had SuperWorld a long time ago ... and if you mean "very similar" as in "having virtually the same constructs and power list (albeit with different names) and pretty much identical overall design" then yes, I would concur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 Re: Authority supplement cover shot My superhero PC Anthem is originally from Superworld. I transplanted her when the GM went away and started her all over again from the beginning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assault Posted April 3, 2004 Report Share Posted April 3, 2004 Re: Authority supplement cover shot For Superworld read: Steve Perrin. You will find that this Great Old One of the gaming industry contributed to the early Enemies books. He also posts on these boards on occasion. Any resemblance between Superworld and Champions was entirely coincidental, I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayoman Posted April 3, 2004 Report Share Posted April 3, 2004 Re: Authority supplement cover shot I have owned Superworld in the past. How do you get that the system is similar to Hero? Do you mean that you take a power add limitations and advantages to get the power that you want? I agree with you on that part, but that is about as close as they come. Yep. In fact it was Chaosium's Super World using the RuneQuest game system which is actually very similar to Hero System. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckB Posted April 3, 2004 Report Share Posted April 3, 2004 Re: Authority supplement cover shot I have owned Superworld in the past. How do you get that the system is similar to Hero? Do you mean that you take a power add limitations and advantages to get the power that you want? I agree with you on that part' date=' but that is about as close as they come.[/quote'] At that point in time (80's), both systems(and GURPS) were: 1 Based on point-allocation systems that allowed the players an unusual degree of control and customization in character design and: 2 Open-ended and could be applied to just about any genre( although GURPS didn't really enter into the super-genre until pretty late in the game). Sounds pretty commonplace now, but at the time, most other systems were still heavily-based on characteristics based on random die rolls and pre-packaged character classes, non-class/level based point-allocation systems were still something of a novelty. Marvel Super Heroes RPG and Villains & Vigilantes were super-games built on this model and even your powers were randomly determined. Both SuperWorld and Champions were very good and fun systems, but (IMO)Champions outlasted SuperWorld because of a slightly-superior system and a higher-volume of product support (although the stuff that Chaosium did put out was very good especially: "Bad News For Doctor Drugs" and "Trouble With Havoc" , both of which had character conversions for Champions). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proditor Posted April 3, 2004 Report Share Posted April 3, 2004 Re: Authority supplement cover shot Pretty cover, liked the art in the comic, hated the story with a deep and abiding passion. And I agree, it's not Ellis, as I'm a faithful follower of Planetary. I'll give the supplement a pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkdguy Posted April 3, 2004 Report Share Posted April 3, 2004 Re: Authority supplement cover shot anybody know a good Tri-Stat to Hero conversion link? Ehhh...the "Earth Special Forces" from DBZ would stomp all of 'em except for the Doctor Here's a conversion done by Michael Surbrook: http://surbrook.devermore.net/herosource/besm.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaplayboy Posted April 3, 2004 Report Share Posted April 3, 2004 Re: Authority supplement cover shot Here's a conversion done by Michael Surbrook: http://surbrook.devermore.net/herosource/besm.html Thanks! I have the Tri-Stat D-X book, so I can go from there I think a DBZ game would likely use a d20 as a base, instead of the d10 they use in Silver Age Sentinels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkdguy Posted April 3, 2004 Report Share Posted April 3, 2004 Re: Authority supplement cover shot You're welcome. I agree DBZ would use d20 instead of d10 for Tristat dX. Heck, considering the insane power level, I'd use 30-sided dice for such a game! Of course, you'd have to modify the rules to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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