michaelwplde Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 (edited) Hello, Is it HERO or Champions I am thinking of here? Is there a concise explanation how to roll for Killing Damage? Is that captured in a web page, calculator, something like that? To clarify specifically, the procedure tallying 0, 1, or 2, qualitatively from each of the rolled dice. Thanks... Best, Michael Edited May 11, 2021 by michaelwplde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 Tell us which book you have and we'll tell you which page the explanation of (rolling for) Killing damage appears on. Chris Goodwin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted May 11, 2021 Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 Killing damage is the simpler one: what you roll on the dice is the BODY you get. Total up all the spots and you get your BODY damage dealt before defenses. Then you roll d3 and multiply that total by what your roll for STUN damage. So, say you roll: Your total is 12. That's 12 body off a 3d6 roll (just about average). Then you roll 1d3 (or a d6 divided by 2, whatever) and apply that to the BODY damage (12 in this case) for the STUN damage total before defenses. NORMAL DAMAGE Normal damage is a bit different. The STUN total is what the spots say (12 in the example above) before defenses. Then you add up the number of dice rolled, subtract any 1's, and add any sixes. So in the example above, its 3 BODY base, minus nothing (no 1's) and plus 1 (1 six). That's 12 STUN, and 4 BODY. From our example roll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelwplde Posted May 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2021 Working from either Ed 5 or 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmjalund Posted May 12, 2021 Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 5th ed uses 1d6 - 1 for the stun multiple for killing damage (minimum 1 i think) so, rolling 3 on the (STUNx) die, would have 4 x (3-1) = 8 STUN Christopher R Taylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted May 12, 2021 Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 Yeah the only difference between 5th Edition and 6th is illustrated above; the stun die roll. Everything else works the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted May 12, 2021 Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 For future reference, the rules explaining how to roll Killing Damage can be found on: Hero System 5th Edition (Revised): p.405 Hero System 6th Edition Volume 2: p.98 Lord Liaden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted May 12, 2021 Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 13 hours ago, Christopher R Taylor said: Yeah the only difference between 5th Edition and 6th is illustrated above; the stun die roll. Everything else works the same. There is a difference in HKA between 5E and 6E, in that the former limits the amount you can increase the total damage by using STR to 2x the base damage of the HKA. In 6E there's no limit to how much you can add to the HKA, other than how much STR you have. Unless your HKA takes the Real Weapon Limitation, in which case the doubling limit still applies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelwplde Posted May 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 I'm sorry if this seems confusing... the responses are great, but they are way off in the weeds. I am just looking for the "name" and "procedure" for the tally itself. Is that a thing? i.e. rolling Nd6, and tallying 1 (0), 2-5 (1), or 6 (2). Make sense? Thanks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted May 12, 2021 Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 "Rolling KA Damage". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted May 12, 2021 Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 Quote I am just looking for the "name" and "procedure" for the tally itself. Is that a thing? i.e. rolling Nd6, and tallying 1 (0), 2-5 (1), or 6 (2). Make sense? Thanks... What about it do you not understand here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted May 12, 2021 Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 "Roll Killing Damage" Procedure: roll dice, total of this roll is BODY damage. Roll separate d6-1 and multiply BODY damage by this amount to obtain STUN damage. Note that the details for determining the STUN damage has evolved slightly over the various editions, but the above procedure is its most basic form. I'm not sure what "name" and "procedure" is meant to refer to apart from a description like I've provided above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted May 12, 2021 Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 2 hours ago, michaelwplde said: I'm sorry if this seems confusing... the responses are great, but they are way off in the weeds. I am just looking for the "name" and "procedure" for the tally itself. Is that a thing? i.e. rolling Nd6, and tallying 1 (0), 2-5 (1), or 6 (2). Make sense? Thanks... This seems to me that you got (which can easily happen) confused with Normal Damage. Normal Damage is used for attacks that mainly do Stun. So to use C. Taylor’s example above 4, 6, and 2 you get 12 Stun. Now in Hero system if you roll high enough you can still do Body (I.e. Killing Damage). How do you figure that out? Well Normal Damage (ND) has Body assign to it. A 1 = 0 Body, 2-5 = 1 Body, 6 = 2 Body. So the above example is 4 Body. A normal Human has only 2 PD. That guy would take 2 Body. (4 Body - 2 PD= 2 Body). Note that other Powers use the Normal Damage to figure out successes, such as Flash and Breaking out of Entangles. Hopefully this helps. 6th 6E2 of. 98, 103 5thr pg. 20, 404 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelwplde Posted May 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2021 On 5/12/2021 at 1:00 PM, zslane said: For future reference, the rules explaining how to roll Killing Damage can be found on: Hero System 5th Edition (Revised): p.405 Hero System 6th Edition Volume 2: p.98 Ah, great! 6ed, 'normal damage', BODY... Just what I needed as a reference, thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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