Old Man Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 Which ones? Of the Galaxy or Rise Of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 I believe he means the Russian superhero movie by that name, which I enjoyed a great deal. Excellent action, and the first Russian speedster I've ever seen. Spoiler Of course he's Russian--you certainly don't see him standing around in one place. BoloOfEarth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 As I cannot access the list can someone tell me if the Cannon version of Captain America from 1990 is on the list ? You know the one with the Italian Red Skull. That should be on the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, death tribble said: As I cannot access the list can someone tell me if the Cannon version of Captain America from 1990 is on the list ? You know the one with the Italian Red Skull. That should be on the list. Agreed. There is only one scene in that movie that worked for me. Where he realized he was in a German model car with a Japanese radio and looked REALLY worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 I have managed to see a top 20 of what I believe are the films on the Rotten Tomatoes list. But the original list goes to 31 so could someone please list 21-30 as Punisher Warzone is no 31. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slikmar Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 I think they were ignoring made for tv movies, which the 1990 Cap movie might be. I noticed that the 80s Spiderman aren't on there either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, death tribble said: I have managed to see a top 20 of what I believe are the films on the Rotten Tomatoes list. But the original list goes to 31 so could someone please list 21-30 as Punisher Warzone is no 31. PUNISHER: WAR ZONE (2008) 29% #31 Critics Consensus: Punisher: War Zone recalls the excessively violent, dialogue-challenged actioners of the 1980s, and coincidentally feels two decades out of date. Synopsis: Marvel Comics' vigilante character The Punisher gets another big-screen outing in this third film incarnation of the character, this time... [More] Starring: Ray Stevenson, Dominic West, Dash Mihok, Julie Benz Directed By: Lexi Alexander THE PUNISHER (2004) 29% #30 Critics Consensus: A good cast fails to elevate this overly violent and by-the-numbers revenge flick. Synopsis: Frank Castle is a man who has seen too much death in his life, first as a Delta Force Op... [More] Starring: Thomas Jane, John Travolta, James Carpinello, Laura Harring Directed By: Jonathan Hensleigh VENOM (2018) 30% #29 Critics Consensus: Venom's first standalone movie turns out to be like the comics character in all the wrong ways - chaotic, noisy, and in desperate need of a stronger attachment to Spider-Man. Synopsis: Investigative journalist Eddie Brock attempts a comeback following a scandal, but accidentally becomes the host of an alien symbiote that... [More] Starring: Tom Hardy, Riz Ahmed, Scott Haze, Reid Scott Directed By: Ruben Fleischer BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE (2016) 28% #28 Critics Consensus: Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice smothers a potentially powerful story -- and some of America's most iconic superheroes -- in a grim whirlwind of effects-driven action. Synopsis: Batman (Ben Affleck) and Superman (Henry Cavill) share the screen in this Warner Bros./DC Entertainment co-production penned by David S.... [More] Starring: Ben Affleck, Henry Cavill, Amy Adams, Diane Lane Directed By: Zack Snyder SUICIDE SQUAD (2016) 26% #27 Critics Consensus: Suicide Squad boasts a talented cast and a little more humor than previous DCEU efforts, but they aren't enough to save the disappointing end result from a muddled plot, thinly written characters, and choppy directing. Synopsis: From director David Ayer ("Fury," "End of Watch") comes "Suicide Squad," starring Oscar nominee Will Smith ("Ali," "The Pursuit of... [More] Starring: Will Smith, Jared Leto, Margot Robbie, Joel Kinnaman Directed By: David Ayer GHOST RIDER (2007) 26% #26 Critics Consensus: Ghost Rider is a sour mix of morose, glum histrionics amidst jokey puns and hammy dialogue. Synopsis: When a motorcycle-riding stuntman offers his soul to Mephistopheles in order to save the life of the one he loves... [More] Starring: Nicolas Cage, Eva Mendes, Wes Bentley, Sam Elliott Directed By: Mark Steven Johnson BLADE: TRINITY (2004) 26% #25 Critics Consensus: Louder, campier, and more incoherent than its predecessors, Blade: Trinity seems content to emphasize style over substance and rehash familiar themes. Synopsis: Wesley Snipes returns as legendary vampire hunter Blade in this, the third film inspired by the popular Marvel Comics character.... [More] Starring: Wesley Snipes, Kris Kristofferson, Dominic Purcell, Jessica Biel Directed By: David S. Goyer GREEN LANTERN (2011) 26% #24 Critics Consensus: Noisy, overproduced, and thinly written, Green Lantern squanders an impressive budget and decades of comics mythology. Synopsis: In a universe as vast as it is mysterious, a small but powerful force has existed for centuries. Protectors of... [More] Starring: Ryan Reynolds, Blake Lively, Peter Sarsgaard, Mark Strong (II) Directed By: Martin Campbell TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES III (1993) 23% #23 Critics Consensus: It's a case of one sequel too many for the heroes in a half shell, with a tired time-travel plot gimmick failing to save the franchise from rapidly diminishing returns. Synopsis: This third film in the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles series finds the half-shelled ninjas traveling back in time to 17th-century... [More] Starring: Elias Koteas, Paige Turco, Stuart Wilson, Sab Shimono Directed By: Stuart Gillard, Corey Feldman, Tim Kelleher DARK PHOENIX (2019) 22% #22 Critics Consensus: Dark Phoenix ends an era of the X-Men franchise by taking a second stab at adapting a classic comics arc -- with deeply disappointing results. Synopsis: In DARK PHOENIX, the X-MEN face their most formidable and powerful foe: one of their own, Jean Grey. During a... [More] Starring: James McAvoy, Michael Fassbender, Jennifer Lawrence, Nicholas Hoult Directed By: Simon Kinberg TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES (2014) 21% #21 Critics Consensus: Neither entertaining enough to recommend nor remarkably awful, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles may bear the distinction of being the dullest movie ever made about talking bipedal reptiles. Synopsis: The city needs heroes. Darkness has settled over New York City as Shredder and his evil Foot Clan have an... [More] Starring: Megan Fox, Pete Ploszek, Jeremy Howard, Noel Fisher Directed By: Jonathan Liebesman JUDGE DREDD (1995) 20% #20 Critics Consensus: Judge Dredd wants to be both a legitimate violent action flick and a parody of one, but director Danny Cannon fails to find the necessary balance to make it work. Synopsis: This action-filled sci-fi spectacle is set in a grim, futuristic world in which authoritarianism is the only way left to... [More] Starring: Sylvester Stallone, Armand Assante, Diane Lane, Rob Schneider Directed By: Danny Cannon GHOST RIDER: SPIRIT OF VENGEANCE (2012) 18% #19 Critics Consensus: With a weak script, uneven CG work, and a Nic Cage performance so predictably loony it's no longer amusing, Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance aims to be trashy fun but ends up as plain trash. Synopsis: Nicolas Cage reprises his role as Johnny Blaze in Ghost Rider Spirit of Vengeance. In this gritty new vision for... [More] Starring: Nicolas Cage, Ciarán Hinds, Violante Placido, Idris Elba Directed By: Brian Taylor, Mark Neveldine SPAWN (1997) 17% #18 Critics Consensus: Spawn is an overbearing, over-violent film that adds little to the comic book adaptation genre. Synopsis: This thriller tells the story of the burnt, scarred, Hellspawn, who keeps performing heroic deeds despite efforts of his demon... [More] Starring: Michael Jai White, John Leguizamo, Martin Sheen, Theresa Randle Directed By: Mark A.Z. Dippé THE LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN (2003) 17% #17 Critics Consensus: Just ordinary. LXG is a great premise ruined by poor execution. Synopsis: Allan Quatermain, the world's greatest adventurer, leads a legion of superheroes the likes of which the world has never seen.... [More] Starring: Sean Connery, Naseeruddin Shah, Peta Wilson, Tony Curran Directed By: Stephen Norrington TURBO: A POWER RANGERS MOVIE (1997) 15% #16 Critics Consensus: No consensus yet. Synopsis: Based on the hit children's television series The Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, this film has the teenage superheroes doing battle... [More] Starring: Jason David Frank, Steve Cardenas, Johnny Yong Bosch, Catherine Sutherland Directed By: David Winning, Shuki Levy HOWARD THE DUCK (1986) 14% #15 Critics Consensus: While it has its moments, Howard the Duck suffers from an uneven tone and mediocre performances. Synopsis: Director and co-screenwriter Willard Huyck has taken Steve Garber's abrasive, beer-drinking and cigar-smoking comic-book character and castrated him, turning him... [More] Starring: Lea Thompson, Jeffrey Jones, Tim Robbins, Ed Gale Directed By: Willard Hyuck, Willard Huyck UNDERDOG (2007) 16% #14 Critics Consensus: Underdog is a mostly forgettable adaptation that relies far too heavily on recycled material and sloppy production. Synopsis: After an accident in the mysterious lab of maniacal scientist Dr. Simon Barsinister, an ordinary beagle unexpectedly finds himself with... [More] Starring: Peter Dinklage, Patrick Warburton, Alex Neuberger, Jim Belushi Directed By: Frederik Du Chau THE SPIRIT (2008) 14% #13 Critics Consensus: Though its visuals are unique, The Spirit's plot is almost incomprehensible, the dialogue is ludicrously mannered, and the characters are unmemorable. Synopsis: A resurrected cop does battle with a villain whose quest for immortality threatens an entire metropolis in Sin City creator... [More] Starring: Gabriel Macht, Samuel L. Jackson, Scarlett Johansson, Eva Mendes Directed By: Frank Miller STEEL (1997) 12% #12 Critics Consensus: Steel is a badly-acted movie that indulges not only in superhero cliches, but also the sappy TV-movie-of-the-week ones. Synopsis: Low-rent, poorly-lit superhero action is the order of the day in this film from television director Kenneth Johnson -- who... [More] Starring: Shaquille O'Neal, Annabeth Gish, Richard Roundtree, Irma P. Hall Directed By: Kenneth Johnson (I) THE CROW: CITY OF ANGELS (1996) 12% #11 Critics Consensus: The Crow: City of Angels is a sloppy pretender that captures neither the mood nor energy of the original. Synopsis: Ashe is a biker who is killed along with his son after witnessing a murder. A crow comes to give... [More] Starring: Vincent Perez, Mia Kirshner, Richard Brooks, Iggy Pop Directed By: Tim Pope JONAH HEX (2010) 12% #10 Critics Consensus: Josh Brolin gives it his best shot, but he can't keep the short, unfocused Jonah Hex from collapsing on the screen. Synopsis: 1970s-era DC antihero Jonah Hex makes his way to the big screen as co-screenwriters Mark Neveldine and Brian Taylor (Crank,... [More] Starring: Josh Brolin, John Malkovich, Megan Fox, Michael Fassbender Directed By: Jimmy Hayward SUPERMAN IV: THE QUEST FOR PEACE (1987) 11% #9 Critics Consensus: The Superman series bottoms out here: the action is boring, the special effects look cheaper, and none of the actors appear interested in where the plot's going. Synopsis: Superman (Christopher Reeve) tries to save the world from nuclear destruction at the hands of Lex Luthor (Gene Hackman) in... [More] Starring: Christopher Reeve, Gene Hackman, Mark Pillow, Margot Kidder Directed By: Sidney J. Furie BATMAN & ROBIN (1997) 11% #8 Critics Consensus: Joel Schumacher's tongue-in-cheek attitude hits an unbearable limit in Batman & Robin resulting in a frantic and mindless movie that's too jokey to care much for. Synopsis: Batman & Robin try to keep their relationship together even as they must stop Mr. Freeze and Poison Ivy from... [More] Starring: George Clooney, Chris O'Donnell, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Uma Thurman Directed By: Joel Schumacher ELEKTRA (2005) 11% #7 Critics Consensus: Jennifer Garner inhabits her role with earnest gusto, but Elektra's tone deaf script is too self-serious and bereft of intelligent dialogue to provide engaging thrills. Synopsis: Ordered to assassinate Mark Miller, the deadly female ninja Elektra opts instead to defy her orders and defends both Mark... [More] Starring: Jennifer Garner, Goran Visnjic, Kirsten Prout, Will Yun Lee Directed By: Rob Bowman SUPERGIRL (1984) 9% #6 Critics Consensus: The effects are cheesy and Supergirl's wide-eyed, cheery heroine simply isn't interesting to watch for an hour and a half. Synopsis: A big-budget spin-off from the series of three successful Superman movies, this film stars Helen Slater as the counterpart to... [More] Starring: Helen Slater, Faye Dunaway, Peter O'Toole, Mia Farrow Directed By: Jeannot Szwarc CATWOMAN (2004) 9% #5 Critics Consensus: Halle Berry is the lone bright spot, but even she can't save this laughable action thriller. Synopsis: Patience Philips is a woman who can't seem to stop apologizing for her own existence. She works as a graphic... [More] Starring: Halle Berry, Benjamin Bratt, Sharon Stone, Lambert Wilson Directed By: Pitof, Jean-Christopher Comar FANTASTIC FOUR (2015) 9% #4 Critics Consensus: Dull and downbeat, this Fantastic Four proves a woefully misguided attempt to translate a classic comic series without the humor, joy, or colorful thrills that made it great. Synopsis: FANTASTIC FOUR, a contemporary re-imagining of Marvel's original and longest-running superhero team, centers on four young outsiders who teleport to... [More] Starring: Michael B. Jordan, Kate Mara, Miles Teller, Jamie Bell Directed By: Josh Trank SON OF THE MASK (2005) 6% #3 Critics Consensus: Overly frantic, painfully unfunny, and sorely missing the presence of Jim Carrey. Synopsis: Just as aspiring cartoonist Tim Avery gets over his fear of parenthood with the birth of his new son Alvey,... [More] Starring: Jamie Kennedy, Alan Cumming, Bob Hoskins, Traylor Howard Directed By: Lawrence Guterman ZOOM (2006) 4% #2 Critics Consensus: Lacking the punch and good cheer of The Incredibles and Sky High, Zoom is a dull and laugh-free affair. Synopsis: Former superhero Jack is called back to work to transform an unlikely group of ragtag kids into superheroes at a... [More] Starring: Tim Allen, Courteney Cox, Chevy Chase, Spencer Breslin Directed By: Peter Hewitt MAX STEEL (2016) 0% #1 Critics Consensus: Bereft of characterization or even satisfying rock 'em sock 'em, Max Steel feels like futzing with an action figure without any childhood imagination. Synopsis: 16-year old MAX MCGRATH has just moved to a new town--and is desperately trying to fit in--when he discovers his... [More] Starring: Ben Winchell, Maria Bello, Ana Villafañe, Josh Brener Directed By: Stewart Hendler Lawnmower Boy and death tribble 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 Thanks very much Starlord. How is the 1990 Captain America film not there ? And Man of Steel ? (That's my prejudice) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, death tribble said: Thanks very much Starlord. How is the 1990 Captain America film not there ? And Man of Steel ? (That's my prejudice) Films have to be reviewed by a certain number of critics before it can be put on the list. It specifically mentioned the 1990 Captain America film didn't make the list because it wasn't reviewed enough, not because it was good enough to be left off the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 Here's an oddity. Elektra is on the list but Daredevil is not ? and Dolph's Punisher is 1989 with Howard the Duck which is on the list came out in 1986. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 29 minutes ago, death tribble said: Here's an oddity. Elektra is on the list but Daredevil is not ? Remove the vomit-inducing Teeter-Totter fight scene, and I'd give Daredevil a solid B. slikmar, Lord Liaden and Hermit 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 There are certain films that get a lot of flak. Waterworld was certainly one. But Daredevil is definitely another. However the 1990 Captain America film should definitely be on the list even if we have to hogtie a whole bunch of critics into watching it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 4 hours ago, death tribble said: Here's an oddity. Elektra is on the list but Daredevil is not ? 4 hours ago, Starlord said: Remove the vomit-inducing Teeter-Totter fight scene, and I'd give Daredevil a solid B. I never understood the hate for Daredevil. Sure, it has flaws, but it was one of the earliest superhero movies to be filmed in comic-book style and imagery. Some parts are very well done IMHO. The scene where Matt can visualize Elektra from the sound of rain falling on her is hauntingly beautiful. Spence, Lawnmower Boy, slikmar and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clonus Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 On 9/27/2020 at 8:26 AM, death tribble said: As I cannot access the list can someone tell me if the Cannon version of Captain America from 1990 is on the list ? You know the one with the Italian Red Skull. That should be on the list. I don't think things which were never released in theatres are eligible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 I thought it was. Or was it pulled from cinemas after preview screenings ? O thought so bad that it was just a write off ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 59 minutes ago, death tribble said: I thought it was. Or was it pulled from cinemas after preview screenings ? O thought so bad that it was just a write off ? I think the Cannon Group blew up so it was never released. CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 I remember it being trashed by Marvel. And I have seen it but cannot recall the circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt the Bruins Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 I actually thought Matt Salinger made a decent Captain America, though he was mired in a crap movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 It's encouraging for any new Fantastic Four movie to note this Captain America precedent, that the taste of even the worst interpretation of an entertainment property can be rinsed away when a new one is made by talented people who understand and care about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted September 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 There is a further precedent with Chris Evans bouncing back with a “second tier” superhero film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 4 hours ago, death tribble said: I thought it was. Or was it pulled from cinemas after preview screenings ? O thought so bad that it was just a write off ? I was thinking it was made so the studio could continue to hold the rights, like later properties Marvel had sold off, and that the studio had pulled it before theatrical release. But I'm not a big "behinds the scenes" movie buff to know a lot of trivia. Edit: Wikipedia says the film rights swapped studios in mid-production and had multiple re-writes (makes you wonder how bad the versions were which never made it to film). After the film was finished, it was held for two years with the theatrical release date being pushed back repeatedly. It was finally released in the US as direct-to-video with no theatrical release. Internationally, it had a limited release in theaters. Lord Liaden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattingly Posted September 29, 2020 Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 I still think Roger Corman's unreleased Fantastic Four film is the best FF film, but that's damning it with faint praise. Which is probably the most praise it deserves, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted September 29, 2020 Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 I finally got to see that a few months ago. I would describe it using an expression I once read applied to another FF film, which I believe works for all of them to a greater or lesser extent: a sh!t-encrusted diamond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt the Bruins Posted September 29, 2020 Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 From the bits I've seen of it, that must have been a pretty small diamond. The FF movies in the 2000s were at least entertaining to me, if not precisely good. slikmar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted September 29, 2020 Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 The 2 shining lights were Evans and Chiklis. Matt the Bruins and slikmar 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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