chall Posted August 16, 2020 Report Share Posted August 16, 2020 I have a question on what type of PRE attack rolls people are using the PRE attack modifier for attractiveness/beauty? I understand the PRE attack modifier for ugliness but help me understand the PRE attack modifier for some one who is beautiful, say +1d6 modifier. Thank you in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsatow Posted August 16, 2020 Report Share Posted August 16, 2020 If you are using your PRE attack to influence a person in a positive way or where appearance may make a difference. Ex: Say your character is a Hollywood Starlet or Supermodel. You need to rent a room for you and your party but you are in one of the hotel's servicing a convention. You could use a presence attack (I am a star!) to cow tow the front desk manager into giving you the better rooms and denigrating the worse room to conventioneers who haven't arrived yet compared to persuasion which doesn't rely as much on sheer presence as compared to talking. dialNforNinja 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 If they have Striking Appearance, add the modifier to the PRE Attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainCoulson Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 The Presence attack is flavoured with whatever style you want to give it (scary mobster, impressive robot, seductive snake-person). That means that the Striking Appearance rarely affects it (only when the style of flavour includes "being attractive" and the target can percieve the style of flavour that your Striking Appearance takes) but when it does affect the roll, then your Striking Appearance adds +X/XD6 to the roll. +X to the difficulty you must roll under to affect the target, and XD6 added to the 'Damage' effect dice if the attack 'hits home'. The number for X is the number of levels of the Striking Appearance that you have that are applicable. DoctorImpossible, Duke Bushido, DeleteThisAccount and 2 others 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chall Posted August 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 19 hours ago, dsatow said: If you are using your PRE attack to influence a person in a positive way or where appearance may make a difference. Ex: Say your character is a Hollywood Starlet or Supermodel. You need to rent a room for you and your party but you are in one of the hotel's servicing a convention. You could use a presence attack (I am a star!) to cow tow the front desk manager into giving you the better rooms and denigrating the worse room to conventioneers who haven't arrived yet compared to persuasion which doesn't rely as much on sheer presence as compared to talking. Thanks that is helpful. I understand the mechanics of adding it to the Pre roll, just not the justification for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 Not all presence attacks are based on fear. A presence attack can also be used to inspire people to follow you. Think of the scene in Wonder Woman where she charges the German’s and the troops in the trenches follow her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 3 hours ago, LoneWolf said: Not all presence attacks are based on fear. A presence attack can also be used to inspire people to follow you. Think of the scene in Wonder Woman where she charges the German’s and the troops in the trenches follow her. Or, a classic is awe. An angel appears overhead as two sides are about to knock heads inside a church, let's say in Mexico...a strong Catholic country. The angel demands an explanation. Both sides stop, and many have to bend over to pick up their jaws.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmjalund Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 FEAR NOT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Neilson Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 Captain America, the poster child for PRE, rarely uses fear as a tactic (unlike Batman, another high PRE example). For examples of what PRE can do, look at the PRE skills. There's a lot more than Fear-based Intimidation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusty Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 6e removed attractiveness as a characteristic. You need the Perk “Striking Appearance” to use good looks to influence a PRE attack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Crusty said: 6e removed attractiveness as a characteristic. You need the Perk “Striking Appearance” to use good looks to influence a PRE attack Did not. There has never been an "Attractiveness" characteristic. There is a "COM" stat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusty Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 29 minutes ago, Greywind said: Did not. There has never been an "Attractiveness" characteristic. There is a "COM" stat. How do you define comeliness? from 5e Comeliness reflects the character’s beauty orhandsomeness. potatoe potahto no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted September 11, 2020 Report Share Posted September 11, 2020 And nowhere in the definition is "attractiveness". So there 😛 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thia Halmades Posted September 14, 2020 Report Share Posted September 14, 2020 On 8/17/2020 at 9:45 AM, PsiJudge McCabe said: The Presence attack is flavoured with whatever style you want to give it (scary mobster, impressive robot, seductive snake-person). That means that the Striking Appearance rarely affects it (only when the style of flavour includes "being attractive" and the target can percieve the style of flavour that your Striking Appearance takes) but when it does affect the roll, then your Striking Appearance adds +X/XD6 to the roll. +X to the difficulty you must roll under to affect the target, and XD6 added to the 'Damage' effect dice if the attack 'hits home'. The number for X is the number of levels of the Striking Appearance that you have that are applicable. So, apologies. Fun thread but I’m going to do the thing where I ruin it for everyone. Sorry, pardon me. Where’s my hat? Ah, here it is. Striking Appearance. Your definition is one interpretation; doesn’t matter if you’re attractive, hideously ugly, or a super cute toddler. Striking Appearance gives you its bonus circumstantially based on how you defined it upon purchase. Striking Appearance: Clearly a f*ING DEMON, is going to get certain types of people’s attention. Conversely, people accustomed to dealing with Tieflings are going to blink and shrug. Striking Appearance: Bow chicka-wow-wow, only works at full value on people who are into whatever it is. And so on. The rest of your post implies that, but I wanted to make it clear for anyone coming in; define how your appearance is striking, and then apply accordingly. As you were. CaptainCoulson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted September 14, 2020 Report Share Posted September 14, 2020 Striking Appearance: Makes people want to strike you. Thia Halmades 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sveta8 Posted September 14, 2020 Report Share Posted September 14, 2020 They are heros... It would explain some things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thia Halmades Posted September 14, 2020 Report Share Posted September 14, 2020 13 hours ago, Greywind said: Striking Appearance: Makes people want to strike you. This is a brief explanation of my life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted September 14, 2020 Report Share Posted September 14, 2020 That's why you wear a helmet 24/7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thia Halmades Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 Nah. I wear the helmet because I kept losing my sunglasses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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