Greywind Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 I've been rewatching the MCU and noticed something in the Iron Man franchise. Iron Man: Pepper takes out Stane. Iron Man 2: Pepper takes out Hammer. Tony loses to a previous suit worn by a rookie. It takes both Tony and Rhodey to take out Vanko. Iron Man 3: Pepper takes out Killian Aldrich. So, who is the better hero? Pepper or Tony? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 Pepper's getting her moments in the movie spotlight to justify the actress's paycheck. Iron Man struggles at times because it makes for a better story for a movie audience. If I needed to be rescued or needed a mission to be accomplished, I'd rather have Tony seriously making the attempt than to have Pepper seriously attempting it. If I had a boring or mundane task which needed to be accomplished, I'd much rather depend on Pepper than Tony. slikmar and Grailknight 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iuz the Evil Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 I think Pepper is a far better executive for Stark Enterprises as well. Tony is a nightmare from a business operations perspective, he clearly doesn't know what the heck he's doing. He's a gifted engineer, and scientist. Really accomplished as a superhero. Maybe he should stick to that though, his business acumen is otherwise pretty lacking in the movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 Pepper starts as the PA and by IM2 is CEO. By the time The Avengers rolls around, she is making executive decisions regarding Stark Tower and and friends with a high level SHIELD agent, Phil Coulson. And working this through, Tony put up the money to finance the Avengers Compound, and it could be more than sure that Pepper was the person who made it happen. She reminds me in many ways of Tim Cook. Steve Jobs preferred to work on products and Tim as COO was handling all the operational & supply lines to ensure, each new model was available in quantities on opening day, that people would line up just to buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted July 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 Well, to be fair, Stark Tower was owned by Stark Industries and not directly by Tony Stark. From IM2 forward he kept commenting that she had a company to run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 7 hours ago, Greywind said: I've been rewatching the MCU and noticed something in the Iron Man franchise. Iron Man: Pepper takes out Stane. Iron Man 2: Pepper takes out Hammer. Tony loses to a previous suit worn by a rookie. It takes both Tony and Rhodey to take out Vanko. Iron Man 3: Pepper takes out Killian Aldrich. So, who is the better hero? Pepper or Tony? Well, let me look back over the scenes in question. Pepper takes out Stane at Tony's direction and insistence. MCU Justin Hammer is a dweeb, and never the real threat. Tony actually kicked Rhodey's ass, putting him down twice for an extended period, and that's when Tony was sick and drunk. It's a classic comic-book plot for two rival heroes to have to work together to take out the main villain. Pepper takes out Killian when she's hopped up on Extremis, and also using one of Tony's suits' weapons, and only after Tony nearly killed him with his exploding armor, leaving Killian a half-dead mess. Don't get me wrong, I really like MCU Pepper Potts. She's brave, and smart, and capable. She also causes a lot less trouble than Tony. But on the evidence, as far as being better at conventional superheroing, I'd have to give it to Tony. Hermit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted July 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 I still say Tony is the greatest villain the MCU Avengers had to deal with before Thanos. If it wasn't for him there would have been no Ultron. And the entirety of Tony's story was accountability. Just as long as he didn't have to be personally accountable... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 The greatest hero in the Iron Man franchise was Dr. Ho Yinsen. Taught Tony how to be a hero and saved his life twice through brilliant surgery then by sacrificing himself. slikmar, Lord Liaden and mattingly 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 Who is the better hero ? Me ! That's Who ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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