Opale Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 Hey ! I was reading again the Coils of the Serpent recently, and I realized that I couldn't find all the enlisted Supervillains. Wouldsomeone know into which book find those ones ? Adder Poison-spitting, knife-wielding super-agent Bloodstar High-DEX, high-SPD weaponmaster Boruto (“Volt”) Electricity powers Japan Brute Super-strength Copperhead Powered armor Delusion Holographic super-technology Miami Epoch Time manipulation Cairo Gauntlet Power gauntlets -> found in Villains 3 Hayaikaze (“Swiftwind”) Speedster, wind manipulation powers Japan Hiss Mental powers Iron Lightning Magnetism, electricity powers Southern Africa Jī nlí (“Goldforce”) Telekinetic powers Hong Kong Minuet Mind control via music Nucleon Energy projection and control Spitfire Uses special “fire blaster” energy pistols Tornado Whirling/speedster powers Tungarak Super-strength, earth powers -> found it on Bay City book from C:NM, but it isn't linked to VIPER there Whitefire Fire powers By advance, thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 Hi, Opale! NIce to see you on the forums again. 👋 AFAICT the names and descriptions of those Dragon Branch villains in V:COTS are all that's been revealed about them in any Fifth or Sixth Edition Champions book. They're just fillers, which an individual GM could choose to develop if desired. As you surmised, Dragon Branch Tungarak is different from New Millennium Tungarak, although there's no reason you couldn't base a write-up for the former on the latter. Also, Gauntlet in CV3 has no connection to VIPER in his background, leading one to suspect VIPER's Gauntlet is a different villain... although again, nothing's stopping you from changing things to make them the same man for your own games. The only other mention of any of these villains I could find elsewhere are Brute and Whitefire, both listed as inmates at Stronghold in the same-named book. But in that book they're only named and noted as Dragon Branch -- they get even less description than what you found. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opale Posted July 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 Hi LL ! Yes, with COVID, I had at least time to come back to Champions rpg somehow ^^. And let my imagination do the rest. Thanks for the pointers. I am considering opening a tabletop for a campaign where my PCs starts as normal guys, and get empowered. Or maybe they will become agents of VIPER, ARGENT, or who know where they will decide to go ! Maybe I should open another thread focused on VIPER, and see how the community can contribute 😛 DoctorImpossible 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 Sounds like a plan Opale! Welcome back too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opale Posted July 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 Thanks NB ! ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 I'll just leave this here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opale Posted July 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 Hey steriaca ! and thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 Even though my own most recent uses of VIPER have mostly been based on the Fifth Edition source book version, I've also drawn heavily from the roster of VIPER staff supervillains in the Fourth Edition book to augment the ranks of Dragon Branch. I know the decision to emphasize VIPER's agents for 5E came after fan complaints that 4E leaned too heavily on their supervillains, but IMHO 5E went too far in the opposite direction. Duke Bushido 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 14 hours ago, Lord Liaden said: Even though my own most recent uses of VIPER have mostly been based on the Fifth Edition source book version, I've also drawn heavily from the roster of VIPER staff supervillains in the Fourth Edition book to augment the ranks of Dragon Branch. I know the decision to emphasize VIPER's agents for 5E came after fan complaints that 4E leaned too heavily on their supervillains, but IMHO 5E went too far in the opposite direction. I wonder if some of the GM didn’t read the part in 4th where it talks about Viper being heavily agent based? Scratches head.🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, Ninja-Bear said: I wonder if some of the GM didn’t read the part in 4th where it talks about Viper being heavily agent based? Scratches head.🤔 Ninja-Bear is right. VIPER was always an agent heavy group. If it wasn't; then it would of been a supervillain team. VIPER was always a team like HYDRA. It moved slightly towards COBRA and Galactor in 4th edition (I already mentioned somewhere that the true Supreme Serpent is like Sousai X, and that hippy mentalist guy Mind Warp was like Gel Sandora...I don't remember who is like Berg Katsu or Lord Egobooster ..) VIPER 5th and VIPER 6th are not exactly anything but there own thing. But that only means that VIPER hasn't been focused of adventures as it should be. If VIPER was really a big threat, shouldn't there be an actual focus of some adventures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Ninja-Bear said: I wonder if some of the GM didn’t read the part in 4th where it talks about Viper being heavily agent based? Scratches head.🤔 *Shrug* Saying it is doesn't automatically make it so. But my IMHO can certainly differ from your IYHO. 2 hours ago, steriaca said: VIPER 5th and VIPER 6th are not exactly anything but there own thing. But that only means that VIPER hasn't been focused of adventures as it should be. If VIPER was really a big threat, shouldn't there be an actual focus of some adventures? V:COTS went the "plot seed" route common for Champs books under DOJ. We've certainly had plenty of criticism of that approach here. But Hero Games also published adventures around the likes of Road Kill, so being the focus of an adventure doesn't necessarily mean that something is a really big threat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Lord Liaden said: *Shrug* Saying it is doesn't automatically make it so. But my IMHO can certainly differ from your IYHO. I was just pointing out that the one section I read (so far) Viper 4th talks about how it’s an agent based group even though the book has Super villains for it. It’s not surprising though through many of my gaming stuff (different systems too) many complaints seem to based on the lack of reading the material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 I would run a Nest as goons for hire. That’s why you can see them with other Super villains the Nest is there as support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 I was just pointing out that while 4E VIPER says it's agent-based, giving so much attention to VIPER super villains in what the book actually covers appears to run counter to that. You can't really fault someone for their impressions if one thing they read is disputed by a lot of what else they read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 55 minutes ago, Lord Liaden said: I was just pointing out that while 4E VIPER says it's agent-based, giving so much attention to VIPER super villains in what the book actually covers appears to run counter to that. You can't really fault someone for their impressions if one thing they read is disputed by a lot of what else they read. Oh I understand. I see what your saying. I believe though that the Supers in the 4th ed book are there to bolster the agents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 Opale I do have a few Super Agents built for Viper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amorkca Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 6 hours ago, Ninja-Bear said: Opale I do have a few Super Agents built for Viper. Are you willing to post them? I'm always looking for agents to shake up my heroes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 So come up with "The Shaker". Amorkca 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Amorkca said: Are you willing to post them? I'm always looking for agents to shake up my heroes! Gladly. When I get them in presentable form will take me some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 Amorkca 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Rand Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Greywind said: Isn't she a leader in the Marvel Comics criminal organization Hydra? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 She's Viper. Or Madame Hydra. You don't like her assets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Rand Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 21 minutes ago, Greywind said: She's Viper. Or Madame Hydra. You don't like her assets? I like them. In fact, I'm considering using Hydra instead of Viper in my upcoming campaign. They will, though, be more of an international criminal organization and less of something like COBRA from the G. I. Joe franchise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 I'm kinda like my outline for Copperhead. Mostly the helmet based weapons system. Yes, it is of the copper coloration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 3 hours ago, steriaca said: I'm kinda like my outline for Copperhead. Mostly the helmet based weapons system. Yes, it is of the copper coloration. Ha, I have a Viper Agent Code Name Copperhead. He’s based on a Heroclix (name escapes me) He’s more powerful than a Mauler agent but not a Super Villain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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